# Any disadvantage to turning off a PP when not in use? **URL:** \ **Category:** Power Components\ **Created:** [December 1, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246 "2021-12-01T16:44:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jhnh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90db22/32.png) [@jhnh](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/jhnh)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/1 "2021-12-01T16:44:23Z")
Is there a warm up period needed for regeneration (affecting performance)? I have digital stuff on a P3, which I would leave on, but my analog stuff (tubes) is on a P12, which I’m thinking I could turn off when not using. Anything wrong with this plan — electricity is very expensive where I live ($200/month); so, i’m looking to economize. ---
**Author:** ![davida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/davida/32/94292_2.png) [@davida](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/davida)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/2 "2021-12-01T16:53:49Z")
Hey jhnh…happy cake day … As far as I know power consumption on either is negligible… best one to answer this question though is jamesh the PS Audio “Whiz Kid” Best wishes ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/3 "2021-12-01T17:05:51Z")
Happy Cake Day! There is no harm in trying, test it out and see if you hear a difference. My expectation is few of us, if any, would hear a difference. In any event, a Power Plant must use very little power in standby. ---
**Author:** ![jhnh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90db22/32.png) [@jhnh](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/jhnh)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/4 "2021-12-01T17:23:02Z")
The P12 (according to the manual) uses 35 Watts in standby — not trivial! ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/5 "2021-12-01T18:08:04Z")
As this is of concern to you, try shutting the Power Plant down and listen. ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/6 "2021-12-01T19:02:27Z")
Possibly you will find my approach beneficial. I should add results will vary with specific components. Prior to installing my P15 sources and preamplifiers were energized continuously. The amplifier would be powered up in anticipation of a listening session. The solid state amp would settle in within 60-90 minutes, the tube amp under 60 minutes. Once adding a P15 serious listening sessions are planned with a 2 hour warm up session, typically streaming or FM radio. For a string of listening sessions, say several days running, I leave the sources and preamplifier powered up with the P15. I do hear a difference and recognize the need for my components to come into thermal equilibrium. I agree with Elk’s suggestion, try various combinations and decide for yourself. I did not get the impression the P15 needs warm-up but that the source and preamplifier do indeed benefit from a warm-up. My impression is based on my pre P15 experience, so there is a bias for warm-up in my recommendation. ---
**Author:** ![aangen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/aangen/32/295709_2.png) [@aangen](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/aangen)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/7 "2021-12-01T22:52:22Z")
I leave everything on except my poweramp. ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:19am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/8 "2021-12-02T00:19:10Z")
I get that your listening sessions may be more extensive than the original poster’s. That’s why I suggested a situational approach. ---
**Author:** ![davida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/davida/32/94292_2.png) [@davida](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/davida)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/9 "2021-12-02T00:24:46Z")
> [@jhnh](#): > > The P12 (according to the [manual](https://www.psaudio.com/support/manuals/)) uses 35 Watts in standby — not trivial! Where do you live? How much are you being charged per kilowatt hour? Best wishes ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/10 "2021-12-02T00:27:16Z")
I turn off AVR since I don’t care if it needs to warm up. I also turn off amps. Other than that, the rest stays on. I think my Wife’s terrariums like the heat and the EMI. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/e/a/ea6f8e69a22815cf691d079c408c2dd6d0dce0d8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/11 "2021-12-02T00:39:37Z")
I think it’s the music. ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/12 "2021-12-02T00:44:35Z")
I almost forgot about this other group in the living room: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/2/3/23c34cffc766daf5cbb2a0b6661f7e480efcce75.jpeg) And then there’s the bog in the kitchen: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/6/b/6b92ea56980f5999db4223dfc67cfc155bb3d56a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/13 "2021-12-02T00:45:07Z")
BTW - none of which are attached to a PP. ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/14 "2021-12-02T00:46:20Z")
In search of a Gekko or two? I assume the roaches are all gone. Then again maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/15 "2021-12-02T00:52:38Z")
I admire them but don’t get too involved. She has her hobbies, I have mine. I am pretty certain that some of those containers are artisan hand blown glass. Guessing Dragon pricing. ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/16 "2021-12-02T00:56:25Z")
One appears to be a repurposed erlenmeyer to these eyes. ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/17 "2021-12-02T01:02:54Z")
I like the “bog”. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/18 "2021-12-02T01:07:44Z")
There’s a much larger one in the backyard filled with carnivorous plants. It’s outside my office window. Some days it’s the best distraction to watch flies try to escape the sticky leaves. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/c/2/c216670fc1d8c84f2e24fb3a2deaddcabb28ed1c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 1:11am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/19 "2021-12-02T01:11:15Z")
Very cool! Any fish involved to help fertilize the plants and keep the insect larvae at bay? [PS, Pitcher Plants of some sort – am I correct?] ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246/20 "2021-12-02T01:17:45Z")
Yes, Pitcher Plants. No fish or dart frogs. I assume that’s any day now. [Next page](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/any-disadvantage-to-turning-off-a-pp-when-not-in-use/26246.md?page=2)