# Anyone try the NCF or Shunyata plug-ins w a P10? **URL:** \ **Category:** Power Components\ **Created:** [October 30, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/anyone-try-the-ncf-or-shunyata-plug-ins-w-a-p10/25816 "2021-10-30T16:01:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![woodburger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/woodburger/32/428_2.png) [@woodburger](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/woodburger)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/anyone-try-the-ncf-or-shunyata-plug-ins-w-a-p10/25816/1 "2021-10-30T16:01:39Z")
What were the results? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![lonson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/lonson/32/249792_2.png) [@lonson](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/lonson)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/anyone-try-the-ncf-or-shunyata-plug-ins-w-a-p10/25816/2 "2021-10-30T18:13:08Z")
If tried the Defender with a P10 and that and the NCF with a P15. The Defender I have left with the P10. It makes a subtle “smoothing” improvement with high frequency. No real downside and when removed. . . you want to put it back. Haven’t tried the NCF in the P10 because it sounds so good with the P15 I don’t want to move it. Just strips away a subtle veil that hung over the sound that was not noticeable before, but once gone you don’t want it back. Both these products were found worthy of my systems. ---
**Author:** ![woodburger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/woodburger/32/428_2.png) [@woodburger](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/woodburger)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/anyone-try-the-ncf-or-shunyata-plug-ins-w-a-p10/25816/3 "2021-10-30T18:32:30Z")
Thank you for the report. Of the two, would you be able to choose a favorite? ---
**Author:** ![lonson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/lonson/32/249792_2.png) [@lonson](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/lonson)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/anyone-try-the-ncf-or-shunyata-plug-ins-w-a-p10/25816/4 "2021-10-30T18:38:23Z")
Yes. . . for my main system the NCF. It’s a close call, but the Defender just seemed to add a tiny dash of old school romance and thus was just that tiny bit less transparent overall. Might be just the ticket for another system. ---
**Author:** ![watchdog507](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/watchdog507/32/7301_2.png) [@watchdog507](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/watchdog507)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/anyone-try-the-ncf-or-shunyata-plug-ins-w-a-p10/25816/5 "2021-10-30T18:52:18Z")
I have The NCF plugged into an NCF power distributor. It makes a positive contribution to the sound. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/e/e/eea1a82f1f3e700e17bb17beb34200c44be18b85.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![audiofury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@audiofury](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/audiofury)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/anyone-try-the-ncf-or-shunyata-plug-ins-w-a-p10/25816/6 "2021-11-14T15:33:16Z")
I’m using and NFC in my Dectet which is fed by an NCF outlet and after a week I’m coming to the conclusion that once its in your system you wont want to take it out. I tried and still have a Defender which I use to protect the line my subs are on. The defender does seem to roll the highs just ever so slightly, I compared it to the Isotek plug in unit first and I still have the Isotek in an unused outlet in the duplex to protect my amp which I run direct to the Furutech Ncf outlet. If the Clearline had surge protection I would most likely have 3 .