# Difficulty with P20 outlets **URL:** \ **Category:** Power Components\ **Created:** [February 28, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/difficulty-with-p20-outlets/27806 "2022-02-28T14:55:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tony22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@tony22](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/tony22)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/difficulty-with-p20-outlets/27806/1 "2022-02-28T14:55:29Z")
I added yet another device to my system and wanted to plug it into an unused outlet on my P20. It’s a regular C15 plug with a ground pin, but for the life of me I can’t get it to plug into any of the open outlet positions on my P20. It plugs into a wall outlet just fine - it’s a stock cord from Pass so there’s nothing special about it. Here’s a pic of one of the open outlets ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/3/0/30d5bff39eb85d430a8ff659d5c01ce43d5718d7.jpeg) I know these are “tight” outlets, but the amount of force I was using seemed a bit over the top. ---
**Author:** ![amsco15](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/amsco15/32/28_2.png) [@amsco15](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/amsco15)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/difficulty-with-p20-outlets/27806/2 "2022-02-28T14:59:44Z")
Maybe you’re not used to tamper resistant receptacles? They have been around a little while but I assume they’re still pretty new to many. That shutter (you can see it in the picture and the TR label) prevents a child, or dumb adult, from sticking something into the receptacle other than the male end of a plug. ---
**Author:** ![tony22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@tony22](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/tony22)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/difficulty-with-p20-outlets/27806/3 "2022-02-28T15:16:59Z")
Well, considering that previous to my P20 I was using a P15 for almost 5 years, I’m at a bit of a loss as to why there’s any difficulty now. Unless… are these receptacles designed so that a new plug can’t be inserted if that power bank is on? 🤔 Come to think of it I’m not sure if I’d ever done that before. ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/difficulty-with-p20-outlets/27806/4 "2022-02-28T15:20:45Z")
They do take a good deal of force, accompanied by gentle rocking. ---
**Author:** ![tony22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@tony22](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/tony22)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/difficulty-with-p20-outlets/27806/5 "2022-02-28T15:28:23Z")
The ones I’m trying to use must be extra stubborn. 🫤 ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/difficulty-with-p20-outlets/27806/6 "2022-02-28T15:33:13Z")
They can be obnoxious. The weight of the P20 comes in handy at times. 🙂 Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Baldy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/baldy/32/223847_2.png) [@Baldy](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Baldy)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/difficulty-with-p20-outlets/27806/7 "2022-02-28T16:55:51Z")
Those shutters will also fail at the most inopportune times. I don’t think my P20 has them but they were in an RV that I owned and one was unusable from new and another failed with a few uses. Sometimes a wiggle back and forth will help the doors open. They are a general PITA. ---
**Author:** ![Vmax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vmax/32/19896_2.png) [@Vmax](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Vmax)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/difficulty-with-p20-outlets/27806/8 "2022-02-28T17:21:53Z")
My P20 has those. The power cable trials are a complete PITA at times especially leaning over a rack shoved up to the front wall and dealing with short cables to save dollars. I have my cheaper longer cables in the top duplex. The trying to get enough force without knocking P20 off its sorbothane footers 100 lb mass is easily exceeded. ---
**Author:** ![tony22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@tony22](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/tony22)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/difficulty-with-p20-outlets/27806/9 "2022-02-28T17:39:28Z")
A little extra wiggling seems to have gotten the job done. I don’t recall any of the other P20 outlets being quite as uncooperative.