Gryphon PowerZone

And what is plugged into the PZ?

The same stuff that was plugged into the P10 - one lead to a digital crossover, three leads to three directstream dacs, three leads to power amps. Total draw about 650 watts (but now via one HC outlet rather than spread across seven P10 outlets. Any ideas?).

I’m about to try the 3.10 plugged into the wall now that my P10 has thrown its toys out of the pram.

My thought is the P10 doesn’t add anything positive to the chain. Remove it.

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Surely the P10 should have low output impedence - I don’t think any of us know how a Powerzone works.

Well, in this case the P10 is overloaded. The PZ optimizes the speed of the hot & neutral wiring, allowing components to perform at their optimum, according to Rune.

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Hopefully @Paul will see this and say something. This P10 has been running fine since the regen boards were last replaced (probably less than a year ago - I need to look that up and wonder what the warranty is that’s provided to distributors.

Paul Hafner the inventor of the powerzone encourages trying power conditioners with the Powerzone. He said if it enhances the sound stay with it if not remove it. If the powerzone sounds better than the P10 than I agree with @aangen.

I had a P10 and upgraded to a P20 the difference wasn’t subtle. The P20 is vastly superior over the P10 imo and I sure there is many others supporting my opinion on other threads. IMO the powerzone sounds better than the P20 so again like others have said the P10 is more than likely hindering the performance of the PZ. Just my opinion.

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The Powerzone seems to have caused the P10 to fail. It used to output 0.1% distortion. The PZ but when I heard something sound different (louder) with the PZ I looked at the P10 and saw 2.2% output distortion which hasn’t gone away since I removed the PZ. Tomorrow’s another day, maybe it’ll fix itself overnight. It’s a real nightmare moving power cords around in my system which has lots and lots and lots of interconnects. This isn’t the first time a P10 has failed.

UPDATE - Powerplay indicates that the P10 started to fail two weeks ago, i.e. before the PZ was attached to it.

What would be the point of using a P10 to power the power zone? Fluctuations in the mains voltage? My P10 was inferior to the Furutech Vault power strip in every respect in terms of sound. I ran an IsoTek V5 SYNCRO UNI in front of my power strip a few days ago. The advantages are: no more transformer hum due to DC components. Tesla charging stations, photovoltaic systems, and some household appliances load the power grid with DC voltage. The IsoTek V5 SYNCRO UNI also improves and realigns the sine wave. A clear improvement in sound and protection of the components. I also think components connected to a power zone could benefit from an IsoTek V5 SYNCRO UNI 16.

Does it make any sense to plug PZ into Puritan PSM 156? I seem to remember @luca.pelliccioli tried it before, or someone else.

I do not think this will improve the SQ BTW, but I am just wonder since my amps use low power.

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In my experience the P10 regen boards degrade over time. Mine were replaced recently and the improvement with new boards was dramatic.

I’ve had enough fiddling for one day.

Does the PZ not sound good plugged directly into the wall?

Something tells me that is not the case. Just a hunch b/c it does not see logical.

I am probably also leaning that way because you mentioned you previously had repairs done to the P10.

Regardless, I hope you get things sorted.

Good luck.

PZ sounds great plugged into the wall, but my Puritan is lonely. It only has a Orbi satellite in it. I seem to remember someone has tried it and it was not a pleasant experience. Well, I do not want to try it to ruin my pleasant mood.

My PowerZone connects straight to the wall. My P20 sits unused. This conversation has gotten very silly.

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I am currently using a Transparent Opus PowerIsolator for Amp and Pre. It’s remarkable.

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At the expense of probably upsetting Al, Powerplay suggests that problems with the P10 started on 27th February. I switch the unit off when not using it and it’s often off for a week or so at a time.

Regarding the sound of the PZ via the wall, it’s certainly not bad but I’ve only played three tracks before getting fed up with the whole ridiculous situation (I get upset as easily as Al by the look of it!).

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Here is my theory. There are several outlets on a P20, P15, P10 etc…… all designed (ideally) to power one device. Now when one adds a PZ to that individual outlet you are now essentially plugging in 8 devices including potentially amplifiers into one outlet on the Power regenerator. I would think that’s going to shut down the device that’s why I didn’t try it on my P20. Just a thought.

I’m speaking of US powered devices. European versions could be different.

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I really don’t think it knows what’s on the end, again maybe PaulMcG will comment.

I tried the Puritan PSM 156 both before the PZ and in parallel (dedicated line).

I prefer the PZ straight into the wall, without anything else. With the only exception of the Grid Protector which seems to mate with it perfectly.

Amp, DAC and PST fed by the PZ in my case.

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