# Hifi Pet Peeves **URL:** \ **Category:** Everything Else\ **Created:** [May 10, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528 "2024-05-10T00:26:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/1 "2024-05-10T00:26:54Z")
I’ll start: 1. When record spindle hole dimensions are inconsistent and need correction 2. Definitive nuggets like: > tubes sound warmer > Solid state sounds brighter > Silver conductors sound bright … ---
**Author:** ![joma0711](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/joma0711/32/277666_2.png) [@joma0711](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/joma0711)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/2 "2024-05-10T00:33:57Z")
> [@RonP](#): > > record spindle I’d extend that to say any record pressing that is sub par - warp, off-centre, those weird little dents, all that carp. There was so much of it in the eighties I stopped buying them. Also: - preamps without a tape loop - speaker (and aerial) terminals that demand bare wire and whoever decided consumers can’t be trusted with banana plugs. ---
**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/3 "2024-05-10T00:35:51Z")
I know. What is the deal with banana plugs??? ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/4 "2024-05-10T00:37:29Z")
Aftermarket power cables with male ends too wide or big around to allow more than one plug to reasonably fit side by side or top and bottom in a power distribution unit or duplex receptacle. ---
**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/5 "2024-05-10T00:38:20Z")
ditto ---
**Author:** ![tony22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@tony22](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/tony22)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/6 "2024-05-10T01:16:13Z")
> [@joma0711](#): > > off-centre This. Of the thousands of records I have I can count _maybe_ 100 that have spindle holes perfectly centered. ---
**Author:** ![john2213](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/john2213/32/94338_2.png) [@john2213](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/john2213)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/7 "2024-05-10T08:38:17Z")
Cheap plastic remotes supplied with very un-cheap components ---
**Author:** ![lonson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/lonson/32/249792_2.png) [@lonson](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/lonson)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 8:42am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/8 "2024-05-10T08:42:05Z")
Vinyl snobs Systems with way too much high frequency energy ---
**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 10:44am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/9 "2024-05-10T10:44:29Z")
absolutists ---
**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/10 "2024-05-10T10:56:40Z")
Products that come in pretty but pointlessly expensive packaging. For example, the cables I use come in high quality cardboard boxes with beautiful tip-on style graphics, with a zippered, heavily padded carrying case into which is a lovely drawstring nylon bag, into which is the cable, that is in a heavy plastic bag. ---
**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 11:07am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/11 "2024-05-10T11:07:37Z")
Products that dictate the style of cable. For example, no RCA inputs. ---
**Author:** ![ErVikingo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ervikingo/32/251111_2.png) [@ErVikingo](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/ErVikingo)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/12 "2024-05-10T12:34:48Z")
All of the hate and implied envy from “objectivists”. ---
**Author:** ![brian.fitterman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbce88/32.png) [@brian.fitterman](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/brian.fitterman)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/13 "2024-05-10T13:22:36Z")
ASR and everything they represent. ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/14 "2024-05-10T15:28:37Z")
Focus on equipment rather than music, 'nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![mrcandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@mrcandude](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mrcandude)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/15 "2024-05-11T06:10:12Z")
The quote: “Audiophiles don’t use their equipment to listen to your music. Audiophiles use your music to listen to their equipment.” Simple, really. Make good, well produced music and we will listen. And otherwise, apologetic audiophiles. There is no need to apologize. Aiming high and the want for better can be a noble pursuit. Hating on that is a “them problem”, Not a “me problem”. Be proud. ---
**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/16 "2024-05-11T11:56:08Z")
I agree. I love the music but I also love the gear. The gear fascinates me and makes me think just as much as does the music. It’s left brain AND right brain. ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/17 "2024-05-11T13:10:59Z")
Making music itself is left brain / right brain. ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/18 "2024-05-11T13:17:01Z")
Many audiophiles use music to listen to their gear. We have plenty of this stripe here. Nothing wrong with this. It is a hobby. ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/19 "2024-05-11T17:00:55Z")
Neither approach is necessarily better. In my experience it is a matter of achieving a balance and not losing sight of the ultimate goal. If I obsess over the hardware I tend to loose sight of the performance. I am much happier when immersed in the performance. ---
**Author:** ![mrcandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@mrcandude](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mrcandude)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/20 "2024-05-11T19:46:18Z")
Immersion is important. Good gear and good music make getting there easier. [Next page](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528.md?page=2)