# Hifi Pet Peeves

**URL:** <https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528>\
**Category:** Everything Else\
**Created:** [May 10, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528 "2024-05-10T00:26:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![aangen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/aangen/32/295709_2.png) [@aangen](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/aangen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/21 "2024-05-11T23:04:34Z")

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Thinking you hear a nice difference adding an external clock to your EtherREGEN and then finding it has a switch labeled “clock - Internal External” that is set to Internal.

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**Author:** ![wudai\_e](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/wudai_e/32/127482_2.png) [@wudai\_e](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/wudai_e)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/22 "2024-05-11T23:24:58Z")

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Thinking a L XLR adaptor made a difference for a subwoofer then realized the sub was never turned on during the comparison. I was so sure of it too!

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**Author:** ![kerosene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/kerosene/32/9084_2.png) [@kerosene](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/kerosene)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/23 "2024-05-11T23:41:39Z")

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Darko has temporarily made a manifesto the only content on the site.

I have to admit I agree with most of it.

[https://darko.audio/](https://darko.audio/)

![Darko Audio Audiphile Manifesto copy](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/f/e/fed537d16e9370d123330c6008a690fb9d8f66bf.png)

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**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 11:53pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/24 "2024-05-11T23:53:15Z")

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I can relate to the sentiment as well, but for the adoption/affectation of the generic “she” instead of the generic “he”. If ever there was a reason assume the use of “he” would be appropriate in a certain context, I would say Hi-Fi/music lovers is probably one of them.

🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![tony22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@tony22](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/tony22)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/25 "2024-05-12T00:22:26Z")

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You might be surprised at how many female music lovers there are, who use a high end system (regardless of who put it together) to listen to music. Over the course of history at the recent Florida Audio shows there have been - wait for it! - more than zero women who were there to actually listen to music. Enough to be noticed as real music listeners enjoying music through high end systems. A little bit slower, but still a growing segment, at AXPONA. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mrcandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@mrcandude](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mrcandude)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/26 "2024-05-12T05:54:38Z")

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Nice. There does seem to be some contradictions in the list.  
Nonetheless, number 8 is important.  
At home, sure, I listen with my system, such as it is.  
Outside the house, I am happy to hear music with what is available.  
So then, maybe it is not exactly, “all about the music”.  
But it is all about being able to hear the music.

No. 10 seem a bit odd to me. Where is room acoustics (no. 5)?  
Also, I think that once you have your system (and your room) sorted, system and setup drops of the list, no?

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**Author:** ![mrcandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@mrcandude](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mrcandude)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 6:09am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/27 "2024-05-12T06:09:22Z")

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Yes. And that is why the quote is a pet peeve of mine.  
And it seems ironic being attributed to AP since he is a maker of music.  
I would assume that making good music would be something that he would strive for.

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**Author:** ![Paul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/paul/32/6_2.png) [@Paul](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Paul)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/28 "2024-05-12T12:10:12Z")

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Is this because of his health issues?

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**Author:** ![jpg55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@jpg55](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/jpg55)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/29 "2024-05-12T16:23:42Z")

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Major pet peeve:  
Manufacturers that keep raising prices to astronomical levels and expect consumers to keep purchasing their products.

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**Author:** ![kerosene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/kerosene/32/9084_2.png) [@kerosene](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/kerosene)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/30 "2024-05-12T17:16:58Z")

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@Paul No idea.

Maybe it’s due to him being at München for the show or site dev/rev.

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**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/31 "2024-05-12T22:09:52Z")

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And consumers do pay these prices.

Why should the manufacturer act ant different way if they are getting sales?

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**Author:** ![jpg55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@jpg55](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/jpg55)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/32 "2024-05-13T03:58:11Z")

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The fact is that high end audio is not attracting enough younger consumers. Just think of the average age of the audiophiles on the PS Audio forums.

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**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 11:07am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/33 "2024-05-13T11:07:53Z")

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“Because that’s where the money is.”

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  — Willie Sutton

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**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 11:43am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/34 "2024-05-13T11:43:21Z")

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It depends on how we define high end audio. A younger person can build a very nice system for very little money.

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**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/35 "2024-05-13T12:00:57Z")

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You echo my thoughts as well. High end audio is shrinking, but I am uncertain that there is a single cause. Pricing is one variable, as well as are competing interests.

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**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/36 "2024-05-13T12:02:09Z")

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With the correct guidance IMO.

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**Author:** ![Audioholic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@Audioholic](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Audioholic)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/37 "2024-05-13T15:21:23Z")

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Greg Weaver showcases a very affordable system that sounds quite satisfying considering the cost.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/4/8/48cf6c0f001c095210f0c3d3462541c15747b0a0.jpeg "E174: The Amazing S.M.S.L SU-1 DAC") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23PcIVcdEaw)

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**Author:** ![jpg55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@jpg55](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/jpg55)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/38 "2024-05-13T15:57:06Z")

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There are many factors and pricing is only one of them. The fact is ( based on my own straw poll) most younger people don’t care and they are satisfied with what comes out of their Iphones, etc.  
I know one of the principle of a well regarded American amp/preamp manufacturer that is seeing their business shrink in the US. They attribute the sales declines to the lack of new consumer blood in the hobby.

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**Author:** ![jpg55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@jpg55](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/jpg55)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/39 "2024-05-13T15:58:13Z")

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Of course they can. But most of the young folks I know are just not interested in audio as perhaps many are in these forums.

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**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/hifi-pet-peeves/37528/40 "2024-05-13T16:10:14Z")

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I understand your point and I think the problem is commonly acknowledged everywhere in the Hifi world. But at any moment in time, the percentage of population into this hobby has always been small.  
In my world, I have several younger people who are rapidly becoming Hif enthusiasts.

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