# How do you purchase your music downloads?

**URL:** <https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917>\
**Category:** Network Audio\
**Created:** [March 10, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917 "2024-03-10T15:34:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![mrcandude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@mrcandude](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mrcandude)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/61 "2024-03-25T20:53:23Z")

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Thanks!  
DoP is DSD over PCM, right? A way to package DSD through a PCM DAC, I guess?

“I found this bit…” Good one! 😃

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**Author:** ![adifferentpaul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/adifferentpaul/32/282181_2.png) [@adifferentpaul](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/adifferentpaul)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/62 "2024-03-25T22:07:19Z")

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Yes, and the DSD is fully restored at the endpoint.  
It was a way to get around the Sony copyright infringement issue of not being allowed to transmit DSD from one device to another. But you’re still getting DSD sound using DoP. PS Audio has a special agreement with Sony that allows DSD transfer from PS Audio source to PS Audio DAC, so that SACD can be fully heard using a better individual source component and a better individual DAC, versus an all-in-one-box solution.

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**Author:** ![waymanchen11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/waymanchen11/32/253241_2.png) [@waymanchen11](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/waymanchen11)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/63 "2024-03-25T22:49:19Z")

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I would like to mention that I just got a couple of new downloads from Octave Records and if you like the previous (Say Somethin’) Gabriel Mervine, you’ll like these two. Sonically both are excellent, but I do prefer musically (See Somethin’) to (I Wish You Love). The latter’s rhythmic tunes just grabs me more emotionally.

I only get DSD256 downloads if avalible even though it cost a little more and take up more hard drive space simply because of all the formats, it comes closest to my reference vinyl payback in presentation and resolution.

 ![OCT-0049_Front](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/5/e/5ebe370fe5276b7f969aaedac2ba67886b54e477.webp)  
 ![OCT-0048_Front](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/0/f/0fbee99b674d0fedc843354b85fd177e991bb0c1.webp)

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**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/64 "2024-03-26T00:05:51Z")

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Glad to hear you liked them.

I just ordered both on SACD this afternoon and I am looking forward to ripping and spinning them.

From my sampling of the tracks on the web site, I also prefer the music on “See Something”. But I like to support the efforts at Octave Records, so I buy everything they release. 😜

I just wish Octave Records was still offering DSD data discs along with the dual layer discs so I could rip both the CD layer and the .dsf file. That was standard for quite a while.

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**Author:** ![waymanchen11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/waymanchen11/32/253241_2.png) [@waymanchen11](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/waymanchen11)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/65 "2024-03-26T00:14:19Z")

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Why can’t you rip both the CD and DSD files? I thought both were possible.

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**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/66 "2024-03-26T00:19:31Z")

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Nope. Not without some creative tinkering with some hot rodded OPPO players or other interesting gizmos.

If I have overlooked something (I use dBpoweramp Music Converter), I would be glad to be corrected. I think I can covert the CD layer to DSD but I can’t literally pull the .dsf data from the SACD and save it on my networked attached storage devices (iMac and Synology NAS).

Anyone here know otherwise…?

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**Author:** ![waymanchen11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/waymanchen11/32/253241_2.png) [@waymanchen11](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/waymanchen11)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/67 "2024-03-26T00:23:50Z")

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So you haven’t gone thru the Sony DVD player route to convert the SACD to .dsf files yet?

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**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/68 "2024-03-26T00:24:28Z")

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Nope. Have you managed it?

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**Author:** ![waymanchen11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/waymanchen11/32/253241_2.png) [@waymanchen11](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/waymanchen11)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/69 "2024-03-26T00:29:27Z")

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Yes, I have converted most of my SACDs. It’s really easy once you get it set up.  
Go to [Ripping SACDs](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ripping-sacds/33609) and check it out.

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**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/70 "2024-03-26T00:30:21Z")

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Upon further sampling of See Something on the PS Audio Octave Records pages, I think its a great recording!

I’ll be checking the tracking status of my shipment frequently now.

Cheers.

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**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/71 "2024-03-26T00:32:14Z")

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Guess I’ll have to bite the bullet and buy an old Sony DVD player.

I have a couple of old Denon “universal players” laying around the house. Any chance these can pull off the same trick as the Sony players?

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**Author:** ![MikeK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/mikek/32/151810_2.png) [@MikeK](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/MikeK)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/72 "2024-03-26T00:48:20Z")

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Tom Gibbs, in his Copper article ([Down the Rabbit Hole of SACD Ripping and DSD Extraction – PS Audio](https://www.psaudio.com/blogs/copper/down-the-rabbit-hole-of-sacd-ripping-and-dsd-extraction-1)), lists a number of different brand models that can perform this trick. 😉

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**Author:** ![carbonF1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/carbonf1/32/258233_2.png) [@carbonF1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/carbonF1)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/how-do-you-purchase-your-music-downloads/36917/73 "2024-03-26T02:01:56Z")

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This thread reminded me… some places to get DSD content outside the US:

**UK & EU**

[Chasing the Dragon](http://www.chasingthedragon.co.uk/shop.html)  
[Highresaudio](https://www.highresaudio.com/en/album/view/wykmeh/james-taylor-jt) (use a VPN to bypass country restrictions, this is how I bought the DSD64 of James Taylor’s _JT_ which I linked here)

**Japan:**

[Onkyo](https://www.e-onkyo.com/music/)  
[mora.jp](https://mora.jp/)  
[Ototoy](https://ototoy.jp/feature/index.php/sound_and_recording)  
[Stereo Sound](https://www.stereosound-store.jp/c/music) - These aren’t downloads per se but they sell BD-ROMs that contain DSD256 files.

Purchasing the Japan-only distributions is a little tricky but some of the music is worthwhile. If there’s interest let me know and I can write up a how-to guide.

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