LHY SW-6: Snake Oil or A Substantial Upgrade?

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Okay, I didn’t really hear noises. It’s just that two LHY switches together with both clocks connected plus the FB connection is vastly superior than with just one of them in chain.

Thinking about water molecules and missing my stereo I played with stones on the beach, just for wasting my time…

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Beautiful yet alien; a great place to do deep thinking (next upgrade?):grin:

If you believe that then that is good enough for you.

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I lived with a week of having both switches installed. SW-6 downstream of the SW-10. I gave it that week to also use the Lumin U2s Ethernet port. I wanted the SW-6 to be connected via FO. I honestly didnt think the Lumin sounded much or any different for this week. Then today, I decided to go back to the SW-10 and remove the SW-6 so I can run fiber into the Lumin again. The reason I wanted to experiment was because I thought maybe LHY had a better converter for the fiber than Lumin. That question was answered in seconds after I started music with a fiber connection. Wow, what a difference. It was so different, I had my daughter come out and A/B it. I’ve never asked her to do that in her 23 years. And she nailed it. Glad she did because neither sounded bad, just different.
The fiber input sounded more intense in her words (involving). It was everything. Dynamiccls, bass depth, imaging, great highs… She aced her first A-B-B-A test :sweat_smile: Just as she’s working on her mid-terms no less.

So yeah, Lumin knew what they were doing in adding the SFP cage. I was very surprised how noticable the two signatures were. Shattered my expectations. I’ll have to figure out how to get my other game systems and video streamers on a switch. Not sure I want to connecr these two with copper.

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Cliff, did you also try fiber from the SW-6? Did you have any assessment vis a vis SW-6 vs SW-10?

Hey Tony,

I did not try the SW-6 optical port to the Lumin. My LAN is fiber, so the only way to test would be after the SW-10 and iconnect via ethernet to the Sw-6. So fiber->ethernet->fiber wouldn’t be ideal in my case.

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What module were you using in the SW-6 when you used that to run fiber to the Lumin? Was it the same type that drives your main fiber network?

Yeah, it accepts Finisars no problem. I use the 1471s everywhere. I even use one of the sending in (in the SW-10) to a 1318 inside the Lumin since it wont accept 10G transceivers.

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I reported long ago Sw-10 using FO into Lumin U2 was the best sounding combo than all the ethernet cables I haves tried; until I went with a Shunyata Omega ethernet cable. With this ethernet cable, the streaming chain gives even more detail and better soundstage than FO. Frankly for most it doesn’t make much sense to go this way because the cable cost is significant, but I did because I had a great experience with Shunyata Omega USB cable. I still want to use FB in the chain hence SW-6 came into the picture. I was pleasantly surprised to find two of them together has produced the best SQ that I have ever heard from my streaming chain.

I switched order of SW-6 and SW-10 in chain earlier so SW-6 is behind Lumin U2. What I found is I like my original layout better. SW-10 before Lumin U2 gave a deeper bass and fuller sound. My guess is Shunyata Omega with its two magic filters have neutralized the benefit of SW-6’s isolated input. When SW-6 is put back to the satellite side that input has more isolation benefit since i am using a Xangsine silver ethernet without additional filter.

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for clarity…is this your preferred path?

router, Omega ethernet cable to SW6 isolated input, fiber optic to SW10, fiber optic cable to Lumin

seems you could use LHY FMC instead of SW6, though you have SW6 in stock

https://www.vinshine.audio/product-page/lhy-fmc

question is…did they get there on their own?

Orbi router > Orbi satellite (WiFi) > Xangsane Silver Ethernet > SW-6 > FO > SW-10 > Omega Ethernet > Lumin U2 > Omega USB > DS Mk2 is the entire path. The Ethernet from sat. to SW-6 made the least impact (I couldn’t hear much difference from assorted cables, but pure silver seemed to bring a bit more), and Omega USB made the most improvement than any other cables in my chain.

U2 and Mk2 use AQ Dragon S cords, and the LHY switches use modified Odin2 knockoff with Furutech IF50 plugs (best mod for these power cords). One M-2 and 3 M-1 fuses helped too. As of now my streaming chain sounds as good or better than PST playing the same recordings. So, I’m happy with the result.

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I put in the hollow silver/rhodium sluggo to replace the same solid one last night. I turned on the system an hour ago, and it sounded very nice. But was it from the additional burn-in on the Furutech plugs or from the hollow sluggo?

The hollow and solid with the same material sounded very similar, and there is no way I can pick a winner without prolong listening between the two. I also have a pure-silver sluggo to try later too. Luckily next week we’re flying to Asia so both the pigtail and sluggo will have most of burn-in done by the time we come back.

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I did this with 3M and I like the result (but it’s another brand switch)

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The Pangea cable demonstrates your secret strategy.
(Whatever it is connected to is unloved)

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dust shields!

I have 8 ethernet dustcaps from AQ, but require 12, so used 3M and I’m even thinking it’s working better than AQ caps
Pangea is my actually second best type of ethernet cable and it goes to upstream EtherRegen , Vodka goes to streamer

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My buddy @akro suggested to me that if I really want to hear what the SW-6 does I need to take the MUON Pro out between it and my MU2. Just put a decent Ethernet cable in its place.

I think that was an interesting suggestion and I awarded him one of these:

Rowdy Space Hamster!

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