# Oscar Peterson and Oliver Jones **URL:** \ **Category:** Music\ **Created:** [July 12, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/oscar-peterson-and-oliver-jones/280 "2013-07-12T19:37:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mariankiely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@mariankiely](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mariankiely)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/oscar-peterson-and-oliver-jones/280/21 "2013-07-14T11:47:48Z")
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOdVlUEVsVU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOdVlUEVsVU) ---
**Author:** ![mariankiely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@mariankiely](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mariankiely)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 11:50am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/oscar-peterson-and-oliver-jones/280/22 "2013-07-14T11:50:09Z")
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqXOEe-m\_Fo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqXOEe-m_Fo) ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/oscar-peterson-and-oliver-jones/280/23 "2013-07-14T12:31:25Z")
> Gordon said: Did Beethoven improvise? Of course. Bach, Liszt and others were well known, highly regarded improvisers. Many Renaissance pieces were merely the starting point, a ground for the musicians. They were expected to demonstrate their sensitivity, creativity and technique with their interpretations. This tradition remains alive. Here is Jordi Savall riffing on "[Folias de EspaÃa](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Frq7rjEGzs)," the equivalent of a 12-bar blues progression of the 1600's. Everyone knew it. The chord progression is simple, but listen to the tremendous variation of moods and techniques employed by the ensemble. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Frq7rjEGzs&feature=player\_detailpage ---
**Author:** ![mariankiely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@mariankiely](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mariankiely)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/oscar-peterson-and-oliver-jones/280/24 "2013-07-14T13:37:32Z")
Thanks, I really enjoyed that. I suspect that, in my case, my minimal knowledge of the “the starting point, a ground for the musicians” makes it difficult [other than obvious morfations [new word] ] for me to recognize subtle character improvisations and therefore my enjoyment of the obvious ones done by crossover musicians. With the former [like wine] I appreciate it or I don’t. I knoweth not whyeth. ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/oscar-peterson-and-oliver-jones/280/25 "2013-07-14T14:58:35Z")
As with the blues, it is the harmonic progression that defines the form. You then can do anything on top of it - smooth, aggressive, fast or slow. In the video you can hear that this progression is quite short and the various approaches. Like everything else, it just takes a bit of experience to get a good sense of what is happening. Then, just like wine, all that really matters is if you like it. 🙂 I really enjoy understanding our current musical forms have their beginning in historical musical traditions, often hundreds of years old. I find this enriches my appreciation and listening. ---
**Author:** ![mariankiely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@mariankiely](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mariankiely)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/oscar-peterson-and-oliver-jones/280/26 "2013-07-14T16:25:29Z")
Here’s another great album and Japanese contemporary of Yamamoto. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFlrVuBy5ok](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFlrVuBy5ok) [Previous page](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/oscar-peterson-and-oliver-jones/280.md?page=1)