# Pricier integrated vs cheaper seperates? **URL:** \ **Category:** Amplifiers\ **Created:** [July 26, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711 "2021-07-26T01:52:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/21 "2024-05-14T22:51:34Z")
Wasn’t sure where else to post this and did not seem like good fodder for a new thread: > **[Accuphase E-380 Integrated Stereo Amplifier Trade-In](https://audio-connexion.com/collections/deals/products/accuphase-e-380-integrated-stereo-amplifier-trade-in)** > > Accuphase E-380 Integrated Stereo Amplifier Trade-In The E-380 realizes a 20% increase in rated output power thanks to a reinforced power amplification stage and power supply. The further evolved AAVA volume control system allows music enjoyment at... FYI. ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/22 "2024-05-14T23:02:14Z")
Scotte1: actually I believe this could make a great topic as I went down this particular path as part of my downsizing scheme. Auditioned all the Accuhase integrated amplifiers. I’d say there are more than a handful of stunning capable integrated amplifiers out there. I also read somewhere that Accuphase Japan has worked with the US importer resulting in a 25% MSRP reduction. My guess Luxman’s price adjustments circa 2019-20 had something to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/23 "2024-05-14T23:12:54Z")
Accuphase mono blocks are on my list of end-game kit. Maybe some day… Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/24 "2024-05-14T23:14:55Z")
The E800 class A is a special integrated within the line, a rather large margin performance wise to their more traditional class AB offerings. ---
**Author:** ![aangen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/aangen/32/295709_2.png) [@aangen](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/aangen)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 4:25am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/25 "2024-05-18T04:25:30Z")
I would love an excuse to buy Accuphase! I bought an Integrated tube amp for my computer desk system and I love it! Cheap too. ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/26 "2024-05-18T04:27:45Z")
The E800 is most worthy ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/27 "2024-05-18T13:06:56Z")
> [@aangen](#): > > I bought an Integrated tube amp for my computer desk system and I love it! Which one? Just so happens my desktop “iTube” low wattage integrated (very cheap) has broken down after many years of service and I am torn between trying to get it fixed or replacing it with something else… TIA ---
**Author:** ![aangen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/aangen/32/295709_2.png) [@aangen](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/aangen)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/28 "2024-05-18T13:29:27Z")
I bought a VTL, or whatever the turntable people are called. Only 100 made. $2500 with a two full sets of tubes. Someone had a real nice Cary for sale here a month or two ago for even less. I’m pleased as punch with mine. ![20230804_220924](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/b/f/bf054f86b04294d84200a5573dfed531cd30c01f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/29 "2024-05-18T13:37:52Z")
Nice! I have been keeping my eyes open for a used MHA 100 or 150 at a great price. A picture of the MHA 150: ![IMG_2725](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/2/2/22c9bbb6e70ac6fbca44852e011bd0bb30b09278.webp) Solid State though… ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/30 "2024-05-18T14:47:03Z")
An understated beauty. ---
**Author:** ![john2213](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/john2213/32/94338_2.png) [@john2213](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/john2213)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/31 "2024-05-18T14:54:30Z")
The VPI 299 is killer! > **[VPI Limited Edition 299D Vacuum Tube Integrated Amplifier — Audiophilia](https://www.audiophilia.com/reviews/2016/3/30/vpi-299d-integrated-tube-amplifier)** > > VPI Industries, well known for its extraordinary turntables, linked up with Steven Leung from VAS Audio to remake a modern and simplified version of the classic vintage H.H. Scott 299D integrated vacuum tube stereo amp (1964-1966). Enthusiastic as... ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/32 "2024-05-18T15:16:48Z")
Had several H.H. Scott 299D integrated amplifiers. Rebuilt a couple of them, all gone now. Fun amps! Not heard the VPI but I am sure it is a nice listen. Part of the fun with tubes is to see that tube glow late at night with the lights dimmed. ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/33 "2024-05-18T15:20:08Z")
There currently is one available on USAM. Price seems fair. The now gone Cary was also a very nice unit. Lingered on the Forum Market Place way too long IMO. > **[Limited Addition VPI 299D Integrated Push/Pull Amplifier](https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649770311-limited-addition-vpi-299d-integrated-with-additional-tubes/)** > > The limited edition (100) VPI 299D is a glorious sounding all tube integrated with a lot of useful features. Current tube compliment is 4x NOS RFT EL34's (100 hours), 4x-Gold Lion KT-88's (500 hrs), 4x-NOS Brimar CV4003 / 12AU7 Cryo'd (100 hours),... ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/34 "2024-05-18T15:25:10Z")
That is tempting, but I am afraid its footprint is just too big for the desktop deployment I have in mind. Seems like great kit at a fair price… ---
**Author:** ![weedeewop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/weedeewop/32/190064_2.png) [@weedeewop](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/weedeewop)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711/35 "2024-05-18T15:40:04Z")
I get it as it is not exactly a headphone amp. [Previous page](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/pricier-integrated-vs-cheaper-seperates/24711.md?page=1)