https://high-performance.dk/?SID=ece93qad1nm6gu8gksdeqi2910
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Wow that is indeed a stunning collection of gear, lucky Scandinavians!
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It was just a small selection
“Paul McGowan fra PS Audio inc. skriver i seneste nyhedsbrev: “Michael, a customer of ours from Denmark posted this picture of him genuflecting in front of his dealer’s stack of PS Audio gear. It brought smiles to our collective faces.” 
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more love Michael -
(I’m concentrated, doing marketing lol)
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That floor standing turntable looks very impressive. It reminds me of the €140,000 Clear Audio Statement.
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If you come to Denmark you can visit Vitus Audio - He has a large private collection of the wildest record players in the world
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Next vacation in Denmark Michael!
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I’m ready
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So any confirmation or denial from PS Audio as to whether or not the detailed specifications published by the foreign dealers are accurate (with the understanding that the quoted price is not accurate, per Paul)?
I would not expect PS Audio to comment on specific specifications, etc. until the speakers are formally introduced.
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This specification was the preliminary spec that we sent out to our international distributors. As Paul mentions, we haven’t stated the final selling price as things have been a slightly moving target with the global supply chain where it is.
This is a half space measurement and in-room the bass will extend to ~20 Hz. This is the same cutoff frequency (at -6 dB) as a kef blade and a wilson alexx etc. It might be because some other manufacturers misstate their low frequency extension that there is some confusion.
I just find the reaction points to a need for discussion of room gain, “house curves” and optimizing in-room performance of full range speakers.
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From Wilson Audio web site:
Specification for current model AlexxV:
“Frequency Response
+/- 3 dB 20 Hz - 32 kHz”
I know it’s a different level of speaker, but you mentioned it. No mention of “in room response” in the Wilson specification, as they have in the specs for many of their other speakers, fwiw. Not sure whether that is an oversight or not on their part, but seems to be a notable omission.
Well, for what it’s worth, here are some measurements of the older Alexx (not alexxV).
Their spec may be “in-room” because the close mic / quasi-anechoic measurements show the system is about -6db at 28 hz and ~-10 dB at 21 hz.
If you notice the spatially averaged in-room measurements in that article, you’ll see it extends to ~20 Hz and below.
The exact shape of our roll-off is somewhat different (with the PR tuning slightly higher) but I just mentioned this for the sake of illustrating the different between in-room versus anechoic 2pi measurements etc., since there seems to be some confusion.
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Sounds good. Yes, they did spec the discontinued Alexx under a room average response spec, as they do with other speakers like Sasha DAW. But if they are consistent in their nomenclature it appears the AlexxV may be different in that regard. Not that it really matters here as different price class for sure (well not for sure, given the unbounded escalation and still openness, haha, but let’s hope) [last part a joke].
Thanks for the clarifications, by the way!
Yeah, all of this feedback and discussion is good, I just wanted to clarify a little.
Unless the woofer box is larger or sensitivity/impedance is lower, the bass extension won’t be significantly different. The shape of the “knee” in the response can change a bit but the pesky laws of physics don’t allow for more extension for “free”.
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You should just spec the -6db spec as well as the in room spec, or even just the in room spec, appropriately labeled (like Wilson does). Most people don’t even know the difference and will be happy just to see the 20 Hz, I’d bet.
Yeah, I think that’s a good idea. I’m just trying to be as transparent and accurate as possible with our number.
KEF lists their bass extension multiple ways, which I like.
| Frequency range free field (-6dB) | 28Hz - 45kHz |
|---|---|
| Frequency range typical in room bass response (-6dB) | 20Hz |
| Frequency Response (±3dB) | 40Hz - 35kHz ±3dB |
| (-6dB at 28Hz) |
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Or, use 18 Hz! Sure it may be 9db down but most will just see “18 Hz” and be elated. I mean 18 is definitely lower than 20 so…
Hell, they may even stop complaining about the lack of dealers lol.
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One can also just build a proper speaker
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No, you have to stay within what is considered acceptable. -9db wouldn’t fall there because nobody else spec’ing that way. It’s one thing for an established speaker company to try to move the goalposts re how speakers are spec’d (after all with any sea change someone has to go first), but wouldn’t suggest it from a newbie first time speaker manufacturer.
What is acceptable in market changes over time. Way back most would list just the +~3db. Then some started doing 6db. Then some room rated. But if enough are doing that even if it is mostly hand waving it ends up being accepted without too much pushback.
Does this mean the Wilson Alexx is not a proper speaker? -10db down at 21 Hz…what a piece of crap!
Can you point me to a proper speaker pls?
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