# PS Audio Music Server In The Pipeline?
**URL:** https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521
**Category:** Network Audio
**Created:** [December 16, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521 "2016-12-16T18:14:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 15
### Author:  [@Brodric](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Brodric)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/284 "2017-08-04T20:37:37Z")
All we know is what’s been publicly mentioned by Paul.
Read post #2 of this topic, my understanding the system (hardware + end point controller) is called Octave.
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### Author:  [@jmeniche](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/jmeniche)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/285 "2017-08-05T02:15:51Z")
While I would hope for a lower list price, my guess is we are going to see a 5,999 price tag.
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### Author:  [@amgradmd](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/amgradmd)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/286 "2017-08-05T16:58:49Z")
I really think a price point that high is a non-starter. In order to be competitive, it would need to be closer to $3k, IMO. Lots of excellent streamers at that price point so it would really really hard to convince people to spend double that.
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### Author:  [@Frode](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Frode)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2017, 4:46am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/287 "2017-08-06T04:46:24Z")
I think this depend on which division the Octave system intend to compete in. If the goal (what I understand) is to be the all-in-one music server that all others will compete against, the price tag is not exorbitant, IMO.
Post note: The price tag supposedly includes a one-box COTS version of the Octave - with software.
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### Author:  [@amsco15](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/amsco15)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2017, 6:36am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/288 "2017-08-06T06:36:02Z")
I’m assuming there will be a software only version that works with a new Bridge III. The new Bridge III might be in the $1.5K range with the server and controller software free.
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### Author:  [@Frode](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Frode)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2017, 9:12am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/289 "2017-08-06T09:12:03Z")
Ok, I thought the Octave platform also included NPD for associated hardware, but maybe you are right.
To use a common platform seems like a sensible approach.
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### Author:  [@stevem2](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/stevem2)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2017, 9:14am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/290 "2017-08-06T09:14:42Z")
I agree. I think there may eventually be a range of products built around Octave, with different capabilities at different price points. Bridge III and the all-in-one ripper/server being examples.
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### Author:  [@Paul](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Paul)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 4:57am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/291 "2017-08-07T04:57:49Z")
Bingo. 
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### Author:  [@magister0](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/magister0)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 5:56am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/292 "2017-08-07T05:56:45Z")
This makes a lot of sense – get the software done first, which is the hardest part (I think, not being an engineer 🙂 ), then provide various options for users. Some don’t need another box if they already have a good setup for ripping and storing their music, so they can just get a new Bridge, while others will want a one-box server.
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### Author:  [@zheng4](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/zheng4)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 10:14am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/293 "2017-08-08T10:14:18Z")
What shape and form of Octave will first be available for commercial sale? software, bridge III, one-box solution? approximately when? I am taking the advice on another forum at this site to wait for Octave instead of purchasing DS Memory Player due to my limited amount of CDs and already having majority of my albums on the Melco N1A server. Thanks.
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### Author:  [@Paul](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Paul)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 11:18am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/294 "2017-08-08T11:18:02Z")
It’s likely to be in a PerfectWave chassis like DirectStream.
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### Author:  [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2017, 6:07am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/295 "2017-08-11T06:07:25Z")
See, also, this [post](http://www.psaudio.com/forum/directstream-all-about-it/is-roon-support-going-to-be-eol/#p77045).
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### Author:  [@lee-scoggins](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/lee-scoggins)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/296 "2017-09-08T15:32:07Z")
This Elk fellow seems to know audio…
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### Author:  [@bruces](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/bruces)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/297 "2017-09-08T15:59:12Z")
Anything new happening?
It has been a while.
I reckon it is time for more news!
Can we please have the latest progress update?
Thanks
Bruce
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### Author:  [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/298 "2017-09-08T16:03:10Z")
> **Lee Scoggins said**
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> This Elk fellow seems to know audio…
Fooled another one! 🙂
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### Author:  [@Paul](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Paul)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/299 "2017-09-09T04:31:13Z")
Elk, you know a lot! Your input is much appreciated.
As for the latest on the server. Dog house testing (where we measure the radiated levels of the sub components housed in RF shielded dog houses) hasn’t gone as well as expected. That’s the bad news. The good news is the individual components within each dog house emit much lower EMI than we predicted. Chief engineer Bob and his team are working hard at figuring out why all that doesn’t perform as well as we had hoped.
Meanwhile, the first “public” alpha test of the Octave software went very well. We learned a lot about the user interface - enough that we pulled back and rebuilt part of the GUI and UI. What we learned was interesting, to say the least. Formerly, when you click on an album cover or artist picture, you were taken to their page. In the case of the album, each album has its own page with details about the album, history, related other albums, band members, etc. This is great if you’re in the discovery mode—learning more about the album and digging deep. But if you know where you want to go—say you just want to play the album or a track or two from that album—then it becomes a two-step process that’s a bit of a pain in the ass.
So we rearranged things. Now the default is what we internally refer to as Classic Mode. Click on an album or an artist, and the area below the album unfolds and displays all the tracks of the album. Bam! (kind of like iTunes does), you can select a track or tracks, add to a playlist, play it, whatever. Quick and easy if you know where you want to go and what to play.
In the upper section of the GUI we have a switch labeled “Discover”. Turn that on and now you’re back to the original mode where an album selected takes you to the detailed album page, where you discover the album “liner notes”, band members, etc.
Good input. A second alpha testing should begin this weekend or early next week.
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### Author:  [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2017, 4:50am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/300 "2017-09-09T04:50:12Z")
Excellent software UI decision.
Roon changed its UI some years ago to require multiple clicks to play music, its Paw Masher UI. It drove users nuts and Roon dropped it.
If a long time Roon user can fills us in on the Paw Masher details this may help PS Audio in its UI development.
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### Author:  [@Paul](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Paul)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2017, 5:08am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/301 "2017-09-09T05:08:04Z")
Paw masher?
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### Author:  [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2017, 5:25am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/302 "2017-09-09T05:25:52Z")
Yes, see, e.g., [here](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/track-playback-issues/1046). (The Roon rep - second post - refers to them as “pawmasher,” i.e., one word.)
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### Author:  [@cxp](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/cxp)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/303 "2017-09-09T06:53:37Z")
Will the new server incorporate any special Ethernet isolation technology? Like fiber optic isolation built in?
Sorry if that has already been discussed.
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