# Reel-To-Reel, really? **URL:** \ **Category:** Audio Components\ **Created:** [March 18, 2023, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884 "2023-03-18T13:45:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rob\_W](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/rob_w/32/151501_2.png) [@Rob\_W](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Rob_W)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/1 "2023-03-18T13:45:28Z")
I was watching a Steve Guttenberg video the other day where he was showcasing audio systems from viewers. Several systems had reel-to-reel decks. I understand nostalgia and the quest for sound prior to digital, but why would someone buy and showcase a reel-to-reel? The entire concept of reel-to-reel has so many red flags against it; it just leaves me baffled. ---
**Author:** ![mycrowave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/mycrowave/32/22659_2.png) [@mycrowave](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mycrowave)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/2 "2023-03-18T14:15:17Z")
Hi Rob, I have an R2R deck that I purchased used only a year ago. There are several reasons why I did this. 1. Back in the late 70s, I had an old Roberts R2R deck that my uncle gave me that I enjoyed using immensely. Similar to Records (some people call them Vinyls), I liked the physical aspects of mounting the tape, stringing it up, and pressing play. I missed the fun I used to have along these lines. 2. During that time, there was an R2R deck that I always wanted but could not afford on the money I made from my paper route. $1500 back in the late 70s was a LOT OF MONEY. But a kid can dream. When I found that tape deck for sale last year, I just had to have it. Bucket list item checked šŸ‘ 3. For the same reasons I used R2R in the '70s, Iā€™m starting to use it again. I have some collector edition records worth hundreds of dollars. Each time I play them, they wear, and/or I risk damaging them if something unfortunate happens. So, I record the record to R2R and play it back from there, retaining the quality of the record and reducing the risk of damaging it. 4. If you are willing to pay the price, you can purchase pre-recorded tapes once removed from the analog master recording. I have the Nora Jones, Come Away With Me tape, and it sounds better than any other copy of that music I have ever heard (including SACD, lossless streaming, etc.). I agree that the catalog of prerecorded music is very sparse. However, owning recordings I like and can find in this format has been second to none from a sound quality perspective. 5. For fun, I recorded lossless streamed music to tape to compare the differences between the two formats. The recorded copies always exhibit that ā€œanalog sound,ā€ whereas the native streamed files sound more etched. Since I enjoy both kinds of sound, I will play back one or the other depending on my mood and what I want to hear/experience. 6. Did I mention the physical experience of mounting and stringing up the tape deck? šŸ˜‰ If I think about it from a purely monetary sense, I agree that R2R makes no sense, but a lot about this hobby makes no monetary sense. Itā€™s all about the enjoyment one gets from it, and spending the money on it is worth it to me. Lastly, I finally got to check off a very long-standing bucket list item. šŸ‘ I hope this helps you understand, at least from my perspective, why I chose to purchase and use my R2R deck. ![20230311_215326](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/0/7/07fe3407743b567e4e4e825d085fb3c364717d89.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![owlsalum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e47c2d/32.png) [@owlsalum](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/owlsalum)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/3 "2023-03-18T14:18:39Z")
A similar comment might apply to vinyl records. Why? Sonics. Thatā€™s the bottom line for me. ---
**Author:** ![mycrowave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/mycrowave/32/22659_2.png) [@mycrowave](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mycrowave)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/4 "2023-03-18T14:20:06Z")
I have a turntable and love playing records for many of the same reasons. ---
**Author:** ![joma0711](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/joma0711/32/277666_2.png) [@joma0711](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/joma0711)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/5 "2023-03-18T14:33:10Z")
Because they are tactile, fiddly, and fun šŸ™‚ Also a well made and maintained R2R deck running at high speed (pref quarter inch full track 15 ips) sounds rather lovely. I _miss_ using R2R. (of course, like valve equipment, itā€™s too expensive now, old or new, as it is seen as ā€œcoolā€ again), and the tapes are dear and many are in bad condition, so i wouldnā€™t bother now, Iā€™m glad I did in the 80s and 90s though šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![tony22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@tony22](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/tony22)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/6 "2023-03-18T16:13:45Z")
Because, unfortunately, itā€™s better than the best vinyl (at least that) Iā€™ve heard - all other things being equal. Iā€™m friends with Harry Weisfeld of VPI. He has the very same tape deck Chad Kassem uses for cutting records. I donā€™t recall what exactly it is, but it doesnā€™t look anything like these classic decks. It has its own stand and is laid out more flat like. Anyway, one day I was with him and he played the 45 RPM copy of the Acoustic Sounds release of Time Out on a VPI Avenger Rim Drive with some ungodly expensive cartridge, and a copy made by Chad of the very tape he used to create the record. Both good? Yes. Tape noticeably better? Unfortunately, yes. My firsthand experience on the matter, and at shows it seems like tape always sounds the best. But IMO you gotta be a rich SOB audiophile to be into tape. A high end deck costs more than a good to great table, and at $3-500 a copy, pre-recorded tapes are not for your average audiophile bear! ---
**Author:** ![mycrowave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/mycrowave/32/22659_2.png) [@mycrowave](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mycrowave)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/7 "2023-03-18T16:46:42Z")
I agree on the cost of a pre-recorded tape. They are expensive. But if you can limit yourself to one a year, a birthday present or a present to yourself for the holidays, one might be able to justify it. At least thatā€™s how I look at it. ---
**Author:** ![tony22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@tony22](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/tony22)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/8 "2023-03-18T16:48:43Z")
Ugh! I donā€™t have that kind of restraint! šŸ¤Ŗ ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/9 "2023-03-18T19:48:49Z")
> [@Rob\_W](#): > > The entire concept of reel-to-reel has so many red flags against it; it just leaves me baffled. I have begun to think the same thing about turntables. Why do people build brand new homes that look like a Tudor? Itā€™s the 21st Century. Why do people renovate their interiors to look like itā€™s Victorian? Itā€™s the 21st Century. People like what they like. ---
**Author:** ![HanksJB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/hanksjb/32/104898_2.png) [@HanksJB](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/HanksJB)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/10 "2023-03-18T20:19:15Z")
Donā€™t forget, R2R just looks frigginā€™ great! Audio eye candy! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/5/a/5a5e2d61a98fc996953eb3ed3d767c7e98a1a357.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![john2213](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/john2213/32/94338_2.png) [@john2213](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/john2213)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/11 "2023-03-18T20:36:38Z")
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**Author:** ![tony22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@tony22](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/tony22)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/12 "2023-03-18T20:47:45Z")
Is that a Nagra? šŸ˜Æ ---
**Author:** ![HanksJB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/hanksjb/32/104898_2.png) [@HanksJB](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/HanksJB)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/13 "2023-03-18T20:56:02Z")
Pioneer RT-707 ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/14 "2023-03-18T20:56:33Z")
Tried and true, the 707! ---
**Author:** ![HanksJB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/hanksjb/32/104898_2.png) [@HanksJB](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/HanksJB)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/15 "2023-03-18T20:57:15Z")
Original owner. ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/16 "2023-03-18T20:58:29Z")
Oh man! Thatā€™s fantastic. Have you considered having a wood cabinet made for it? At one point I think it was an option. ---
**Author:** ![HanksJB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/hanksjb/32/104898_2.png) [@HanksJB](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/HanksJB)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/17 "2023-03-18T21:11:16Z")
I like it as is. ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/18 "2023-03-19T00:56:42Z")
Considering how long you have had it, that makes sense. I have been looking at them for several years. For some reason I never pull the trigger. ---
**Author:** ![kerosene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/kerosene/32/9084_2.png) [@kerosene](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/kerosene)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 3:45am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/19 "2023-03-19T03:45:36Z")
Were reel-to-reel albums, for example, in the 1960ā€™s or 1970ā€™s more expensive than the same album in LP format? ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:43am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884/20 "2023-03-19T04:43:26Z")
Yes. [Next page](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/reel-to-reel-really/32884.md?page=2)