# RESOLVED! -P20 no longer wants to Initialize **URL:** \ **Category:** Power Components\ **Created:** [January 18, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393 "2024-01-18T03:25:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Valerio-Mac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/valerio-mac/32/226553_2.png) [@Valerio-Mac](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Valerio-Mac)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/21 "2024-01-20T08:46:39Z")
Meanwhile, the following day… 🤣 ![1gn8oc](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/b/e/bea6455e140dc74f01b9125bc592e7f26a41fce3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Vmax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vmax/32/19896_2.png) [@Vmax](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Vmax)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/22 "2024-01-20T13:07:59Z")
Oh i did not bother to listen last night since all electronics had cold soaked over a day. Just to be safe each amp when I turn on out of standby will be individually and manually switched on the auto start and taxed power grid is what P20 said,” I don’t think so” But the MC1,25KW is not fickle with Thermal-Trak Transistors. The MC1000s took 45 minutes of playing for Bias and temperatures to get happy out of standby. ---
**Author:** ![Valerio-Mac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/valerio-mac/32/226553_2.png) [@Valerio-Mac](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Valerio-Mac)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/23 "2024-01-20T13:17:33Z")
> [@Vmax](#): > > The MC1000s took 45 minutes of playing for Bias and temperatures to get happy out of standby Damn… Quite a bit… Let’s hope I don’t have to put snow chains on my McIntosh too… 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Vmax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vmax/32/19896_2.png) [@Vmax](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Vmax)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/24 "2024-01-20T13:31:20Z")
I am happy I waited and didn’t start mov every power cable to wall hook up. Waiting for power cord insulation dielectric to reform and getting isolation and tuning rings optimized is one struggle I didn’t want to deal with on a dozen cords. But surely beats speaker placement or subwoofer selection or both. 😝 ---
**Author:** ![Valerio-Mac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/valerio-mac/32/226553_2.png) [@Valerio-Mac](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Valerio-Mac)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/25 "2024-01-20T13:39:17Z")
> [@Vmax](#): > > But surely beats speaker placement or subwoofer selection or both Given the weight of objects that fascinate us, I was thinking of purchasing one of these robotic exoskeletons. 😂 ![matrix_apu](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/5/d/5dee12a39372202d8c933d5e000876b8b2420d66.jpeg) I understand you very well when you talk about anxiety about transporting heavy electronics. I spent almost a week evaluating how to get the PL500s (320KG of total pallets, almost 100KG per speaker) into my basement, naturally without causing damage. ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/26 "2024-01-20T14:20:26Z")
> [@Valerio-Mac](#): > > PL500s Very nice. Would love to see some pictures of them in their natural environment… 😉 Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Valerio-Mac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/valerio-mac/32/226553_2.png) [@Valerio-Mac](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Valerio-Mac)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/27 "2024-01-20T14:26:01Z")
> [@scotte1](#): > > Would love to see some pictures of them in their natural environment Here they are: 😉 > [@System Photos!](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/system-photos/8910/8478): > > True, I was “advised” to connect the 1.25KW directly to the wall socket if I intend to listen to the system at high volumes. I currently use it (the P20) to power the DSDMK2 and the MEN220. I have in mind, however, to get another one for the AV system in the tavern (still in its infancy): It is a system that is not yet finished, I will have to add a central channel (choice between a Magico A5 or a PSAudio FR30, unfortunately, the PL500s were only sold as a pair) and a Parasound Halo JC1+ to drive it. ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/28 "2024-01-20T14:28:41Z")
Very nice! System is coming together great. It looks like you have a good eye for value (i.e., high performance/$). What are the footers the racks are coupled to? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Valerio-Mac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/valerio-mac/32/226553_2.png) [@Valerio-Mac](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Valerio-Mac)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/29 "2024-01-20T14:34:03Z")
> [@scotte1](#): > > Very nice! System is coming together great. Thank you very much, my friend. > [@scotte1](#): > > It looks like you have a good eye for value (i.e., high performance/$) Exactly, I’m trying to express the maximum (euros/performance). > [@scotte1](#): > > What are the footers the racks are coupled to? Music Tools SPIKE-HULL II are made in Italy. ![2a324f6e28af249442af77ffa9ee399cf5d99435_2_666x500](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/7/0/70af84fb732e1f442ff8b6a527a731c2e9f2754e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/30 "2024-01-20T14:52:24Z")
> [@Valerio-Mac](#): > > Music Tools SPIKE-HULL II are made in Italy. Thank you. SEE ---
**Author:** ![rower30](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/rower30/32/297137_2.png) [@rower30](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/rower30)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/31 "2024-01-21T04:02:12Z")
I would think that this re-set procedure would at last be added to the P series regenerator user manuals to save owners a lot of unneeded grief. My P20 has been 100% sitting there doing it’s thing but, someday? Also, it save PS Audio most service calls for the problem,too. Best, Galen ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_Gan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aeb1de/32.png) [@Philip\_Gan](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Philip_Gan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/32 "2024-03-16T07:34:16Z")
> [@Vmax](#): > > I got to chat with Caleb in PS Audio service. Based on watching a video of the symptoms he noted that the [P20](https://www.psaudio.com/products/directstream-p20-power-plant/) sometimes remembers the event where it last shut down. Thus a restart or restart with the blue front panel standby button will keep it from the next step in the boot up cycle. > > The key after initial initialization screen it goes dark. He said wait until you hear another solenoid click about 15 to seconds later. After one hears that click. Press and release the front panel standby button. This in turn over rides the protection mode memory and unit will power up. Sadly, my P20 is doing the same thing, but pressing the standby button on powering up at different times hasn’t worked for me. Sending an email to PS Audio support… ![IMG_1247](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/8/8/88102a2f27c4fd16e6b731ff7f69fc7ec8e0e31d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Vmax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vmax/32/19896_2.png) [@Vmax](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Vmax)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/33 "2024-03-16T16:34:08Z")
Don’t press blue button until you hear a click. It maybe subtle noise if the lid is still on your P-20. It is about 15 or 20 seconds after the rear power switch is flipped. ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_Gan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aeb1de/32.png) [@Philip\_Gan](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Philip_Gan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/34 "2024-03-16T21:14:51Z")
@Vmax - thank you very much!!! There was too much ambient noise yesterday but this morning, I waited, heard the click, and success!! I had been pressing too early yesterday. Back to audio nirvana!! ![IMG_1253](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/3/c/3c54e4c794a4f155e40b78d3d759c4a738caddc3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/35 "2024-03-16T22:00:51Z")
Excellent! ---
**Author:** ![Vmax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vmax/32/19896_2.png) [@Vmax](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Vmax)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/36 "2024-03-16T22:29:55Z")
Gla to hear you go iit going. Next step your Bacch4Mac. ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_Gan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aeb1de/32.png) [@Philip\_Gan](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Philip_Gan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/37 "2024-03-16T22:51:10Z")
> [@Vmax](#): > > Next step your Bacch4Mac Thanks again so much. Yes, I am waiting with much anticipation for the BACCH! ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_Gan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aeb1de/32.png) [@Philip\_Gan](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Philip_Gan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 10:13am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/38 "2024-04-18T10:13:55Z")
Unfortunately this glitch has come back after a power outage to the whole town. This time, nothing is working to fix the Regenerator initializing freeze. I have been using a stethoscope in a silent room and over minutes there is no solenoid sound. I have tried pressing the blue button at 2 second intervals by stopwatch. So far, nothing happening. By way of bad timing, I’m meant to have BACCH installed by Edgar Choueiri this Friday (NJ time). Looks like I’ll miss out unless there’s a fix before then. @Paul - any other way to overcome this please? ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/paul/32/6_2.png) [@Paul](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 10:54am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/39 "2024-04-18T10:54:18Z")
Let me see if I can get Steve to give you some help. ---
**Author:** ![akro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/akro/32/177145_2.png) [@akro](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/akro)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 12:03pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/resolved-p20-no-longer-wants-to-initialize/36393/40 "2024-04-18T12:03:53Z")
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