# The science of cable elevators? **URL:** \ **Category:** Accessories and Tweaks\ **Created:** [July 2, 2020, 5:04am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780 "2020-07-02T05:04:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Vmax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vmax/32/19896_2.png) [@Vmax](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Vmax)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/210 "2022-04-06T22:24:33Z")
Keeping speakers in same location might be a challenge and a entire symphony of little movements. Plus who knows what the off floor elevation adds to it. I know simple things like a level to adjust tilt of Gaias really changes things with my line array speakers. ---
**Author:** ![aangen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/aangen/32/295709_2.png) [@aangen](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/aangen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/211 "2022-04-07T00:10:26Z")
I had Gaia Titans under my Wilsons. I am very very familiar with them. They are so very worthwhile. ---
**Author:** ![Palouse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/palouse/32/93521_2.png) [@Palouse](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Palouse)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/212 "2022-04-07T02:43:10Z")
Scinece? ---
**Author:** ![davida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/davida/32/94292_2.png) [@davida](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/davida)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/213 "2022-04-07T11:28:49Z")
> [@Palouse](#): > > Scinece? Professor…a spelling mistake…gwan cain’t believe it Best wishes ---
**Author:** ![dchang05](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/dchang05/32/294697_2.png) [@dchang05](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/dchang05)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/214 "2022-04-07T12:32:26Z")
I remember you found a sponge holder that looks nicer than many cable elevators I have seen; at a non-audiophile price. ---
**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/215 "2022-04-07T12:39:44Z")
A joke ---
**Author:** ![davida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/davida/32/94292_2.png) [@davida](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/davida)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/216 "2022-04-07T12:41:47Z")
Yep I knew that…which is why my type in cheek post 😁 Best wishes ---
**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/218 "2022-04-07T13:57:10Z")
I’m so glad that I never could hear a reason to elevate my cables. My gf thinks I’m nuts already. ---
**Author:** ![Palouse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/palouse/32/93521_2.png) [@Palouse](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Palouse)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/219 "2022-04-07T14:51:37Z")
😲 😲 😲 ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/220 "2022-04-07T20:33:39Z")
> [@CinDyment](#): > > Those conditions, those signal levels, and those gross distortions of the cables do not happen in audio. A turntable is the only place signal levels are low enough, there is no phantom power, and the cables are only vibrating slightly (very small movements). A poorly constructed headphone cable can be microphonic. ---
**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/222 "2022-04-08T21:28:48Z")
I did mean movement causing microphony. I frequently build very nice cables from carefully selected components and have learned how to eliminate sound from cable movement. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Gary\_M](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Gary_M)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/223 "2022-04-14T19:12:26Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/8/6/8629804fece9849a01aeb5b402618ef10a5a02f5.jpeg "What’s up with Audiophile Cable Risers?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh1EWGu7Te8) ---
**Author:** ![EGH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/egh/32/92435_2.png) [@EGH](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/EGH)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/224 "2022-04-14T19:36:06Z")
This Vinyl Attack video dovetails with Danny’s video regarding cable risers. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/3X/b/a/ba2ec7c4e7384d03e2bff25cad9826e14a6c475a.jpeg "Do Cables Matter? The GR Research Trip.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaSpc7GOjxA) ---
**Author:** ![invalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@invalid](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/invalid)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/226 "2022-04-15T00:35:11Z")
Why don’t you start a YouTube channel? ---
**Author:** ![EGH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/egh/32/92435_2.png) [@EGH](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/EGH)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/227 "2022-04-15T02:58:38Z")
Unless a topic can be empirically proven or demonstrated incorrect, how about when someone shares their experiences, letting them stand as their experience? And if your preference is for a specific procedure or test, do it for yourself; then share your experience and outcome with the community. I have zero reasons to distrust the things they experienced. Whether their YT delivery is polished or not isn’t all that important to me. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Gary\_M](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Gary_M)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/228 "2022-04-15T14:22:48Z")
So I decided to elevate my current speaker cables, which I tried once before, but used plastic CD jewel cases, which didn’t yield any benefits. This time I used cardboard A frames, as suggested by Danny in the above video. The improvement was immediate and obvious. Better separation and imagine specificity of instruments and vocals. Also a marked improvement in low level detail. Plan on replacing the cardboard with something more aesthetically pleasing, but for something that cost me nothing, and only took 10 minutes to put together, I couldn’t be happier with the results. ---
**Author:** ![Baldy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/baldy/32/223847_2.png) [@Baldy](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Baldy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/229 "2022-04-15T15:05:09Z")
That’s cool. The measurement freaks would have a field day with the improvement. I doubt if they could “hear it” if it was immeasurable. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![joe-appierto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/joe-appierto/32/294192_2.png) [@joe-appierto](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/joe-appierto)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/230 "2022-04-15T15:09:32Z")
Reminds me of how it’s aerodynamically impossible for bumblebees to fly coupled with the statement by the physics community at the end of the 19th Century that there was nothing left to discover/explain. ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/231 "2022-04-15T15:40:34Z")
> **[Flight Of The Bumble Bee Is Based More On Brute Force Than Aerodynamic...](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090507194511.htm)** > > Brute force rather than aerodynamic efficiency is the key to bumblebee flight, Oxford University scientists have discovered. ---
**Author:** ![joe-appierto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/joe-appierto/32/294192_2.png) [@joe-appierto](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/joe-appierto)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780/232 "2022-04-15T15:46:22Z")
Fascinating. So, bumblebees are a hopped-up cross between tanker trucks and helicopters. Thanks for the link. [Previous page](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/the-science-of-cable-elevators/17780.md?page=12)