# Thiel Speakers **URL:** \ **Category:** Loudspeakers\ **Created:** [September 25, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222 "2018-09-25T22:48:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mikeyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@mikeyr](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mikeyr)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/1 "2018-09-25T22:48:41Z")
I’ve had the same speakers for 21 years now — Thiel CS3.6s — and have been very happy with them. In that time, I’ve made numerous changes to my system (mostly Naim electronics) and don’t feel these speakers have ever limited my system — which is detailed, has PRAT, and also very good imaging. I don’t listen to many other speakers since I think it’s kind of meaningless doing so using other electronics, cables, etc. in a different room — and it’s almost impossible to get large heavy speakers to demo in my own room. I guess I’m an audio dinosaur, but when I do (infrequently) hear other systems, I’m rarely thinking that WOW this sounds so much better than my own system. Is there anything wrong with sticking with what I know works and getting “off the merry-go-round” — or am I an official audiophile dropout? ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/2 "2018-09-25T22:58:09Z")
You need to hand in your membership card, no question. ---
**Author:** ![mikeyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@mikeyr](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mikeyr)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/3 "2018-09-25T23:08:27Z")
☹ What’s wrong with having a great sounding system that you’re happy with and not obsessing 24/7 about whether or not I can impress others with my system. PLEASE don’t take my card away! ---
**Author:** ![mark-d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/mark-d/32/20_2.png) [@mark-d](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mark-d)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/4 "2018-09-25T23:22:16Z")
As long as your impressed,what others think should not matter… ---
**Author:** ![JeffofArabica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/jeffofarabica/32/135_2.png) [@JeffofArabica](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/JeffofArabica)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/5 "2018-09-25T23:38:18Z")
I would venture to say that you are not 100% content with your current speaker setup, otherwise there would be no motivation to post this message. I think secretly you are hoping a bunch of us will chime in with things like, “Life is too short, so don’t limit yourself.”. Or maybe, “There really is no ‘I’m finally there’ moment in audio, so who are you kidding?” Even yet, “Hell… 21 years!? That’s ROI X 5! Go treat yourself to something shiny and new for crying out loud!”. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mikeyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@mikeyr](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mikeyr)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/6 "2018-09-26T00:57:12Z")
Problem is shiny and new isn’t necessarily better. Once you get to where you believe your system is “there” for you, then I’m not sure it’s necessary to keep searching. BUT that audiophile curiosity is always there lurking in the back of my mind… ---
**Author:** ![mikeyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@mikeyr](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mikeyr)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/7 "2018-09-26T00:59:55Z")
BUT I may audition different speaker cables — that should help satisfy my shiny-and-new bug. ---
**Author:** ![bruce-in-philly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/bruce-in-philly/32/55_2.png) [@bruce-in-philly](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/bruce-in-philly)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/8 "2018-09-26T01:24:13Z")
How much can you spend? Those Thiels are nice but there are quite a few amazing speakers out there. Find a Magnapan dealer… immerse yourself in them… find a Focal dealer and get off on the detail and dynamics… on and on. Being an audiophile doesn’t mean you are never happy. Those folks are just dopey to me. But it is fun to explore a new technology or check out stuff a tier or two above where you are. Peace Bruce in Philly ---
**Author:** ![stevem2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@stevem2](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/stevem2)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/9 "2018-09-26T01:42:11Z")
If you’re happy with what you’ve got, count yourself lucky and spend your money on music. Or your favorite beverage for listening to music. ---
**Author:** ![brett66](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/brett66/32/92201_2.png) [@brett66](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/brett66)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/10 "2018-09-26T01:51:06Z")
or you might consider having the surrounds refurbished as I’m sure they are quite dry and fragile at this age. Perhaps they have a crossover update that could take them to the next level. ---
**Author:** ![markh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@markh](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/markh)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/11 "2018-09-26T02:42:23Z")
I have the CS-6 and have had the crossovers re-capped which made a huge improvement. They sound great but that does not mean that something else might either be “better” or give enjoyment in the hunt. It is hard to tell without bringing anything else into your room-a real pain. I don’t know how PSA can send out their new offerings when ready for test drives at over 100 lbs each. Mark H. ---
**Author:** ![mikeyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@mikeyr](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mikeyr)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/12 "2018-09-26T02:58:25Z")
MARKH: Curious how you had ur Thiels recapped. Did u ship them or take out the crossovers yourself? Even the new Thiel service guys don’t recommend shipping the speakers due to size and weight. ---
**Author:** ![mark-d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/mark-d/32/20_2.png) [@mark-d](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mark-d)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/13 "2018-09-26T12:16:21Z")
Or if the desire to help others warms your heart…donating to your favorite charity is always a kind choice to those who may be less fortunate than ourselves… ---
**Author:** ![stevem2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@stevem2](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/stevem2)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/14 "2018-09-26T14:04:51Z")
Another good option ---
**Author:** ![mikeyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@mikeyr](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mikeyr)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/15 "2018-09-26T15:54:36Z")
I agree! Hopefully these two actions are not mutually exclusive. ---
**Author:** ![mikeyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@mikeyr](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mikeyr)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/16 "2018-09-26T15:59:11Z")
The cone surrounds are fine, and unfortunately there isn’t a crossover update available according to Thiel’s new service center. ---
**Author:** ![markh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@markh](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/markh)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/17 "2018-09-26T16:32:15Z")
I am very fortunate to have a local genius who came to my house(Chicago suburb) removed the crossovers then re-installed after recapping. Yes, these units weigh about 150 lbs. each. mark. ---
**Author:** ![markh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@markh](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/markh)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/18 "2018-09-26T16:37:09Z")
Photo of CS-6 crossover ![IMG_0409](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/psaudio/original/2X/2/2bfae5163e551b7cac374337d9f317d29a127812.jpeg) Mark. ---
**Author:** ![retro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4491bb/32.png) [@retro](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/retro)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/19 "2018-09-26T17:40:24Z")
One of my favourite brands. Used to have CS1.2, CS6 and finally CS3.7. Actually think I liked CS6 best. So sad they went away… ---
**Author:** ![mikeyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@mikeyr](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mikeyr)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222/20 "2018-09-26T18:11:13Z")
MarkH - you’re fortunate having an “in-house” tech genius! A few weeks ago I asked Rob Gillum (former Thiel employee now doing service on Thiel speakers) about a crossover update but none is available; he would replace worn components with the same parts - but that’s still good news. Problem is I don’t think I’m capable of removing the crossovers and then reinstalling them myself - but I’ll deal with that problem if there’s a problem with the crossovers. My tweeters need to be rebuilt so I’ll take care of that and then see how things are afterwards. [Next page](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/thiel-speakers/7222.md?page=2)