# Tube Question

**URL:** <https://forum.psaudio.com/t/tube-question/31065>\
**Category:** Audio Components\
**Created:** [November 13, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/tube-question/31065 "2022-11-13T21:25:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![clrvlewis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@clrvlewis](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/clrvlewis)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/tube-question/31065/1 "2022-11-13T21:25:10Z")

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I searched in the Tube rolling thread but can’t find what I am looking for. I have switched the tubes in my BHK Pre and BHK 250. I installed 12AX7A/ECC83 in my Pre and 7308/E188CC in the BHK 250. The volume does not seem to work. As I increase the volume it hardly rises until somewhere around 25, and 52. Then a pop and a large volume increase. I obviously didn’t play around with it and shut it off. I didn’t think I needed to change any of the jumpers but maybe I am wrong?

Any help would be appreciated.

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**Author:** ![jeffreybehr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/jeffreybehr/32/36_2.png) [@jeffreybehr](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/jeffreybehr)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/tube-question/31065/2 "2022-11-13T22:01:42Z")

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Those are two rather-different tube types that are NOT interchangeable… Not only do they use different heater Voltages but they have different pin-outs… I’m suprised either of those work at all.

Put the 'X7s back in the preamp and the 6DJ8/ECC88/7308s back in the poweramp and see if they work.

FWIW, members of the 12A\*7 tube family are theoretically interchangeable, but each’s electronic performance is NOT the same so results may be audibly poor.

And I hope you didn’t fry any of your tubes.

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**Author:** ![clrvlewis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@clrvlewis](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/clrvlewis)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/tube-question/31065/3 "2022-11-13T22:07:51Z")

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I took the 12AX7A/ECC83 out of the BHK Pre and that fixed the issue. I left the E188CC/7308 in the BHK250. Are you saying that’s not a good idea?

I thought the 12AU7 was interchangeable with the 12AX7

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**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/tube-question/31065/4 "2022-11-13T22:49:24Z")

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Research carefully before rolling tubes.  
12AX7 generate much different gain than do 12AU7, for example.

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**Author:** ![joe-appierto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/joe-appierto/32/294192_2.png) [@joe-appierto](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/joe-appierto)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/tube-question/31065/5 "2022-11-14T00:02:04Z")

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The amplification factor (mu) of a 12AX7 is 100 while for a 12AU7 it’s 20.

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**Author:** ![vkennedy61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/vkennedy61/32/41241_2.png) [@vkennedy61](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/vkennedy61)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/tube-question/31065/6 "2022-11-14T00:20:34Z")

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> [@clrvlewis](#):
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> I left the E188CC/7308 in the BHK250

While I had a 250, that was my favorite tube in it. Enjoy!

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**Author:** ![clrvlewis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@clrvlewis](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/clrvlewis)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/tube-question/31065/7 "2022-11-14T13:13:14Z")

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Thank you ever one for the replies and help.
