# Why music ownership matters **URL:** \ **Category:** Music\ **Created:** [December 22, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756 "2020-12-22T16:33:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![umiami91](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/umiami91/32/160007_2.png) [@umiami91](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/umiami91)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/1 "2020-12-22T16:33:51Z")
I don’t know if this is too politically charged for the board. Again, I defer to my betters. But it’s just another reason why I don’t trust my music collection to streaming. From the article: “I wanted to hear the Bob Dylan song “Neighborhood Bully” off his 1983 record Infidels. That’s how I discovered that YouTube won’t let you hear the song. It turns out that this man Bob Dylan, so beloved by the American cultural establishment and winner of the 2016 Nobel Prize in literature, is guilty of hate speech. Sooner or later, they all are.” > **[Bob Dylan’s ‘Neighborhood Bully’ Gets Memory-Holed](https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/neighborhood-bully-memory-holed)** > > Me, I romp and stomp/Thankful as I romp/Without freedom of speech/I might be in the swamp ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/2 "2020-12-22T16:43:58Z")
An interesting article. ---
**Author:** ![Serhan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/serhan/32/192329_2.png) [@Serhan](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Serhan)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/3 "2020-12-22T17:50:37Z")
Interesting indeed! ---
**Author:** ![Craig\_Burgess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/craig_burgess/32/258763_2.png) [@Craig\_Burgess](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Craig_Burgess)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/4 "2020-12-22T18:00:23Z")
Sometimes it isn’t even changes in socio-politcal mores, but just the whims of the artist. I haven’t found anyone who can give me a credible explanation of why the seminal “Tupelo Honey” album is missing from the rest of the Van Morrison catalog on Qobuz and Tidal, though I’ve read rumors to the effect that he’s just decided he’s no longer happy with the record. ---
**Author:** ![owlsalum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e47c2d/32.png) [@owlsalum](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/owlsalum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/5 "2020-12-22T19:10:48Z")
Probably not so much a positive statement on music ownership, but more of a I just don’t like streaming statement. I played with Roon + Tidal on a 14 day trial. I cancelled it. To me it is like paying for Netflix to have access to a library of content 95% of which doesn’t interest me. Yes I know many value the new music discovery aspect of streaming, but it just isn’t worth having my bank account syphoned for a streaming service that in end delivers little I find I like. My collection of owned music is what I love. Regardless of what high-res album I click on in my digital library or vinyl album I grab off my shelf. It’s worth pointing out no streaming platform can deny me what I love. That’s just me. I cut the cable on cable tv years ago for similar reasons. ---
**Author:** ![amsco15](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/amsco15/32/28_2.png) [@amsco15](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/amsco15)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/6 "2020-12-22T20:45:30Z")
> **[For music archivists, a contemporary dilemma: Should racist songs from our...](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-10-19/harry-smith-b-sides-anthology-racist-content)** > > The label behind 'The Harry Smith B-Sides,' the sequel to the famed 'Anthology of Folk Music,' chose to omit three songs with racist lyrics. Cue the debate. ---
**Author:** ![jazznut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jazznut](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/jazznut)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/7 "2020-12-22T20:45:58Z")
Same here…what I don’t own isn’t (always and for sure) available. ---
**Author:** ![umiami91](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/umiami91/32/160007_2.png) [@umiami91](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/umiami91)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/8 "2020-12-22T21:03:09Z")
I have thoughts. Many thoughts. 🤐 ---
**Author:** ![kwe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b4bc9f/32.png) [@kwe](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/kwe)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/9 "2020-12-24T16:28:05Z")
Streaming services like the remixes and remasters. Sometimes I prefer the original release, often in mono. Small bands need fans to buy their CDs to preserve their efforts. These bands make their money with live performance, but they solidify their fan base with CDs or downloads. ---
**Author:** ![Sohail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/sohail/32/9389_2.png) [@Sohail](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Sohail)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/10 "2020-12-24T17:46:21Z")
I like to own physical copies of the music I love listening to. Streaming provides an opportunity (most of the times) to review albums that I might be interested in buying. Added benefit for me is the ability to have access to music anyplace where you have a decent internet connection. In the end, if I love an album I buy it. ---
**Author:** ![davida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/davida/32/94292_2.png) [@davida](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/davida)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/11 "2020-12-24T18:06:27Z")
Given the proven unreliabilty of cloud music services and the history of lost or deleted purchased and owned by purchaser… I buy and keep my cds or download my purchased mp3 … music. Cloud storage of these is not trustworthy…Too many have lost a lot of invested $$$$ to these. I’m just too old school. ---
**Author:** ![Sohail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/sohail/32/9389_2.png) [@Sohail](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Sohail)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/12 "2020-12-24T18:12:59Z")
I wouldn’t give up being old school 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![davida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/davida/32/94292_2.png) [@davida](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/davida)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/13 "2020-12-24T18:18:47Z")
One very important aspect I overlooked is the artist composers musicians need compensation for their work… This is a highly important reason for music ownership. No $$ no artists, composers, musicians or recording venue.!! ---
**Author:** ![Elk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/elk/32/1240_2.png) [@Elk](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Elk)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/14 "2020-12-24T18:26:18Z")
Yes, and musicians are paid very little when their music is streamed. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Gary\_M](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Gary_M)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/15 "2020-12-24T19:06:23Z")
Youtube, owned by Google, is just one of many platforms that have decided to be your nanny and censor information they feel their readers/listeners should be exposed to. This in my opinion is modern-day book burning, which is why I’ve canceled my cable subscription, deleted my Facebook account, and other Freedom hating platforms from my life. ---
**Author:** ![umiami91](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/umiami91/32/160007_2.png) [@umiami91](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/umiami91)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/16 "2020-12-24T19:10:22Z")
As one of the half-dozen Americans who’ve never had a Facebook account, I applaud you. [note: This is a generally sarcastic comment and I have no judgement on anyone’s choice to have a Facebook account. Everyone does things for their own reasons and needs, and that is what makes liberty so wonderful. Although it IS true I’ve never had one.] Mike ---
**Author:** ![Serhan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/serhan/32/192329_2.png) [@Serhan](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Serhan)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/17 "2020-12-24T19:54:36Z")
Add data breaches and compromising personal and credit card details to the list. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![davida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/davida/32/94292_2.png) [@davida](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/davida)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/18 "2020-12-24T20:43:24Z")
For the same reasons never have or never intend to create an account with fb… ---
**Author:** ![owlsalum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e47c2d/32.png) [@owlsalum](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/owlsalum)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/19 "2020-12-24T21:52:15Z")
I did start a FB page years ago when it was the new shiny thing. Zuckerburglar quickly turned it into a personal data ripoff machine and that was it for me. Haven’t logged on to or even looked at it for years. Also made the mistake of creating a LinkedIn page when it was the newer shiny thing. Then reports of it being used by not so nice guys to target folks for, among other things, industrial espionage. No more LinkedIn for me. ---
**Author:** ![Baldy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/baldy/32/223847_2.png) [@Baldy](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/Baldy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756/20 "2020-12-24T22:00:39Z")
I had one for a couple of weeks when it first started. I could see right away that it was not going to work out. What a huge uncontrolled waste of time just to build revenue for advertisers. Some years later I was trying to delete the account but had forgotten the password to log on and do so. As far as I know the account still exists but hasn’t been used in long long time. [Next page](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/why-music-ownership-matters/20756.md?page=2)