# Without going silly, what is recommended **URL:** \ **Category:** Cables\ **Created:** [December 14, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452 "2022-12-14T08:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![peterthebutcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@peterthebutcher](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/peterthebutcher)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/1 "2022-12-14T08:40:48Z")
the other week I bought a Matrix Audio SPDIF to use its i2S connections into the SGCD. I am looking for a good HDMI cable to connect the 2. I like the TQ brand, as their Black II speaker cable made a huge difference for me, so was hoping one of their HDMI;s could do a similar thing. Given the cost of the 2 pieces of hardware, I feel that spending 100’s on a cable that cost more than one of the items its going from a bit of a no no, as would upset the other half if she found out 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![michael\_lichnovsky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/michael_lichnovsky/32/142559_2.png) [@michael\_lichnovsky](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/michael_lichnovsky)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:36am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/2 "2022-12-14T09:36:30Z")
Congrats on the purchase! Is you like TQ, why not just stay there! Plenty of cable loom advocates around here - all cables from one maker so they all pull in the same direction. If not, the AudioQuest models from Cinnamon up are reliable and perform better than standard. You don’t need to break the bank at all - often the biggest performance steps are at the entry point of a range. The old 10% rule seems to still make a lot of sense until you start going down the rabbit hole. 🤦‍♂️ What’s around that’s about 10% of the stuff it’s connecting up… ---
**Author:** ![aangen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/aangen/32/295709_2.png) [@aangen](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/aangen)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 10:28am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/3 "2022-12-14T10:28:17Z")
The best bang for the buck in USB cables I have found: > **[IN-AKUSTIK Reference USB 2.0 cable](https://www.smallgreencomputer.com/products/in-akustik-reference-high-speed-usb-2-0?_pos=1&_sid=6231988af&_ss=r)** > > Looking for the best USB cable for your USB DAC? We tested 20 different USB cables some cost as much as $3500. Inakustik is the best we found. They sound better then cables costing 10x as much. The Inakustik Reference USB 2.0 cable is the best... ---
**Author:** ![mp5310](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/mp5310/32/92067_2.png) [@mp5310](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mp5310)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 12:03pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/4 "2022-12-14T12:03:39Z")
> **[Amazon.com: BJC Series-FE Bonded-Pair High-Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet, 2...](https://www.amazon.com/Bonded-Pair-High-Speed-Cable-Ethernet-White/dp/B0026RXL4W)** > > Blue Jeans Cable Series-FE: Bonded Pairs for the best in High-Bitrate Performance:With very few exceptions, HDMI cables are pretty much the same inside: four conventional twisted data pairs for video data and a few other conductors for low-speed... BJC makes very good quality cable with Belden wire. The bits should get from point A to point B. 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![RonP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/ronp/32/213555_2.png) [@RonP](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/RonP)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/5 "2022-12-14T13:38:42Z")
> **[PS Audio PerfectWave 10 I2S Cable-3 Meters](https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649772553-ps-audio-perfectwave-10-i2s-cable-3-meters/)** > > Up for sale is the PS Audio PerfectWave 10 I2S cable. This cable has never been used. PayPal and shipping are the responsibility of the buyer. Please contact me if you have any questions. USAudiomart is your friend. This is an excellent cable. The 3 meter length is not a negative. I have a 3 meter and a 1 meter and I can’t hear a difference. Make an offer that you’re comfortable with. You never know, they might take it. ---
**Author:** ![magister0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@magister0](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/magister0)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 1:51pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/6 "2022-12-14T13:51:23Z")
Try the HDMI cable from Morrow Audio. It’s what I am using at the moment with good results. List price is $150 for 3/4 meter but it’s often available at a discount. ---
**Author:** ![peterthebutcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@peterthebutcher](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/peterthebutcher)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/7 "2022-12-14T14:45:57Z")
I have a very good USB cable, in a [ARTISAN SILVER CABLES | pure silver digital interconnects & USB cables](https://www.artisansilvercables.com/digital-interconnects) its HDMI I am after ---
**Author:** ![peterthebutcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@peterthebutcher](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/peterthebutcher)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/8 "2022-12-14T14:52:13Z")
I am in the UK, and not really buying from outside these shore (for personal reasons… been ripped off before) ---
**Author:** ![club\_pizzazz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/club_pizzazz/32/143324_2.png) [@club\_pizzazz](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/club_pizzazz)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/9 "2022-12-14T15:05:25Z")
I would try to match brand/level of the cable you have feeding the matrix. If that’s not an option maybe picking up some AQ cinnamon level cables like mentioned above would serve you well. For about $100 you can get a .75m coax and 1m matching hdmi. I’ve been completely satisfied with my cinnamon coax and my GCD. What are you using as your streamer? Would love to hear your impressions of the Matrix and the GCD. ---
**Author:** ![peterthebutcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@peterthebutcher](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/peterthebutcher)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/10 "2022-12-14T15:41:41Z")
I stream from my 3 yr old Pentuim i5 NUC with a 2 tb SSD and uprated 32gig RAM, with Audirvana 3.5 on for the past 3 years. I added the Matrix a couple of weeks ago, and just use a good USB cable (that powers it as well) from the SGCD its fed to the M700 amps and Amphion 3LS speakers ---
**Author:** ![djstix1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3e96dc/32.png) [@djstix1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/djstix1)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/11 "2022-12-14T17:42:04Z")
what length HDMI cable do you need? I have a .5M wire world silver sphere 48 for sale in the UK if that’s of interest. ---
**Author:** ![mscardina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@mscardina](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/mscardina)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/12 "2022-12-14T21:42:01Z")
I’m am using Supra Cables for HDMI as I have found their engineering to be first-rate without an exorbitant price tag. They are readily available in the UK at shops such as [Supra HDMI - HDMI | Futureshop.co.uk](https://www.futureshop.co.uk/hdmi/supra-hdmi). ---
**Author:** ![peterthebutcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@peterthebutcher](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/peterthebutcher)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/13 "2022-12-14T22:03:57Z")
prob .5 to.75 of a metre, not sure, will measure it tomorrow ---
**Author:** ![peterthebutcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@peterthebutcher](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/peterthebutcher)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/14 "2022-12-14T22:06:22Z")
for me the addition of a basic HDMI made a big difference in the sound, probably down to the use of the i2S connection in and out connections on both ---
**Author:** ![scotte1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/scotte1/32/147_2.png) [@scotte1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/scotte1)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/15 "2022-12-15T00:35:45Z")
(@peterthebutcher) I second the recommendation to look for your next HDMI cable among the wares offered by fellow audiophiles through used equipment sites, including dealers with active trade in and trade up programs and the denizens of this forum, in particular. Best way to get a (big) bang for your buck. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![dawkinsj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@dawkinsj](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/dawkinsj)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/16 "2022-12-15T01:44:17Z")
Inakustik Excellence HDMI should be available for under 100 Euros on line at various shops. > **[Inakustik Excellence straight HDMI cable](https://www.av-connection.com/?PGr=12604)** > > High-end HDMI cable of highest quality for the most demanding tasks, Full HD, 3D and 4K @ 60Hz up to 15 metres. ---
**Author:** ![flowcharts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3bc359/32.png) [@flowcharts](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/flowcharts)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 1:58am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/17 "2022-12-15T01:58:41Z")
I’ve been very happy with a Furutech HF-X NCF HDMI cable, about $200 from Audiophonics. Really nice tonal density. I haven’t tried out the high end stuff yet, but I haven’t been toooooo tempted. This was coming from DH Labs and Belden FE cables. ---
**Author:** ![djstix1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3e96dc/32.png) [@djstix1](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/djstix1)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/18 "2022-12-15T03:04:45Z")
I think mine is actually .6 of a metre but will measure to check ---
**Author:** ![driftingbunnies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c77e96/32.png) [@driftingbunnies](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/driftingbunnies)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:12am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/19 "2022-12-15T04:12:34Z")
@peterthebutcher You can try taking a look at Ricable. Their HDMI cables are affordable and recommended by a youtuber. > **[HDMI Cables - Ricable - Connect Your Passion](https://www.ricable.com/en/hdmi-cable/)** > > HDMI 4K HDR Hi-End shielded cables for Hi-Fi Audio/Video connections for TVs and projectors. Designed in Italy and guaranteed for life on site. ---
**Author:** ![kerosene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.psaudio.com/kerosene/32/9084_2.png) [@kerosene](https://forum.psaudio.com/u/kerosene)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:17am UTC](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452/20 "2022-12-15T04:17:13Z")
Someone in the forum raved about [Wireworld cables](https://wireworldcable.com/collections/hdmi-cables) a few years back and I’ve sort of stopped going elsewhere. [Next page](https://forum.psaudio.com/t/without-going-silly-what-is-recommended/31452.md?page=2)