DirectStream + Playback Software

I don’t see this at all while running the installer. Perhaps they have changed this in the current release.

In any case I’m using an Intel MOBO so I hope its defaulting to the Intel version.

Just one more thing:

Under Play Via in Jplay settings I don’t see KS: PS Audio 2.0 Output as mentioned in post #68. I see the following options:

ASIO: PS Audio USB Driver

WASAPI: JRiver MC 20

KS JRVAD Wave

If I choose PS Audio I can’t get Ultrastream as it defaults to Classic.

I think or feel computerized audio is extremely complex with many moving parts

add to this we observe the colorations that we like as individuals. So In general We observe as individuals evening we may agree about certain aspects of our systems.

For me it’s my servers with 2012 and AO AND now JPLAY over j river. Although there is so many settings to play with. And dsd is much different in settings then PCM. It’s crazy. Now jriver is a great all around player to start with. But for the adventurous of heart try above or even what the other just posted. For me I am on AO third release of beta 131.

Some claim HQ player is great it stinks for me. Some claim it’s great if you up sample anthoer thing I do not like the sound of.

It just keeps going. I just wish our beloved music was filled with great sound as our systems can reproduce. For be its less than 5% that’s truly stunning it’s seroius drop off after that.

alcarp said I don't see this at all while running the installer. Perhaps they have changed this in the current release.

In any case I’m using an Intel MOBO so I hope its defaulting to the Intel version.

Just one more thing:

Under Play Via in Jplay settings I don’t see KS: PS Audio 2.0 Output as mentioned in post #68. I see the following options:

ASIO: PS Audio USB Driver

WASAPI: JRiver MC 20

KS JRVAD Wave

If I choose PS Audio I can’t get Ultrastream as it defaults to Classic.


Contact JPlay about sending the Intel version.

Problem is likely you lost the PS Audio Directwave DSD driver option in Windows Sound. Do you have the JPlay usb card by chance? It has a habit of losing that driver when there are changes in the system, even a USB cord unplugged temporarily. In any case, reinstall Pikes Peak or whichever OS you’re using. That should do it, although you might also have to reinstall the USB driver. Then reboot and check Sound to see if PS Audio has returned (see screenshot). If so, then you’ll have the Kernal Streaming (KS) PS Audio USB option in JPlay settings. If you haven’t already, I also suggest giving a try to MinimServer and Linn Kinsky as player (see JPlay instructions for MinimServer settings or pm me; and if Kinsky opens too large, i.e., off the screen in part, install MoveIt, which allows resizing with mouse and key stroke).

Johno said Hello

Has there been any discussion about this player - bug head.

Now I have been using this player, I used two players, J play and bug head.

Interesting that Bug head player is able to discern cymbals and complex female vocal more clearly. Previously JPLAY mini has provided the best SQ however bug head player has taken over first place convincingly in superior SQ.

Bug head player is worth a try if you are seeking the best SQ from a software player. -

Follow JPLAY forum for more information and see url http://jplay.eu/forum/index.php?/topic/1553-infinity-blade-hq-bug-head-emperor-worth-trying/ for software two elements are required for the player to work.

Rewrite package and player software found here. - http://oryaaaaa.world.coocan.jp/bughead/index.html

I’ve been using Bug head for months and installed many upgrades as the programmer is very active tuning the software.

Jriver SQ is not in the same league as this player bug head has way superior more realistic sounds.
enjoy

Bug head developer says four hours of burnin necessary (not sure why). I haven't gone through the tunings or other options - not sure I understand any of the later - but a couple hours in, using Section 1 and Auto Phase A and default tuning (JPlay off), it's a very good player but it seems two dimensional and lacking delicacy relative to JPlay running MinimServer and Linn Kinsky. To me, that would be a better comparison point. So far I've played singer Stacey Kent (The Changing Lights), blues piano player Deanna Bogart (Pianoland) and Emil Gilels playing Beethoven Sonatas. Will see how it turns out. Btw, what equipment and software are you using?

Update: Playing the Infinity Blade standard version right now with upsampling (right side alternative). Much better than Bug head (Q?), but still falling short in all dimensions, sounding a bit thin and polite.

Once more: Infinity blade SQ = super quality and that sounds even better and has really good tonality. The thing I suspect is that it sounds more precise vs. JPlay/Ultrastream/MS/Kazoo because the latter has a lot more spatial effect/depth, as if we’re hearing more of the room.

highstream said
alcarp said I don't see this at all while running the installer. Perhaps they have changed this in the current release.

In any case I’m using an Intel MOBO so I hope its defaulting to the Intel version.

Just one more thing:

Under Play Via in Jplay settings I don’t see KS: PS Audio 2.0 Output as mentioned in post #68. I see the following options:

ASIO: PS Audio USB Driver

WASAPI: JRiver MC 20

KS JRVAD Wave

If I choose PS Audio I can’t get Ultrastream as it defaults to Classic.

Contact JPlay about sending the Intel version.

Problem is likely you lost the PS Audio Directwave DSD driver option in Windows Sound. Do you have the JPlay usb card by chance? It has a habit of losing that driver when there are changes in the system, even a USB cord unplugged temporarily. In any case, reinstall Pikes Peak or whichever OS you’re using. That should do it, although you might also have to reinstall the USB driver. Then reboot and check Sound to see if PS Audio has returned (see screenshot). If so, then you’ll have the Kernal Streaming (KS) PS Audio USB option in JPlay settings. If you haven’t already, I also suggest giving a try to MinimServer and Linn Kinsky as player (see JPlay instructions for MinimServer settings or pm me; and if Kinsky opens too large, i.e., off the screen in part, install MoveIt, which allows resizing with mouse and key stroke).

<img title="PS-Audio-setting-in-Windows-Sound.JPG" alt="PS-Audio-setting-in-Windows-Sound.JPG" src="http://www.psaudio.com/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/highstream/2015/05/PS-Audio-setting-in-Windows-Sound.JPG" width="449" height="420" /></blockquote>

Thanks to @highstream I discovered the problem was the USB hub between PC and DAC. When I removed the hub and connected PC directly to DAC I got the PS Audio driver appearing in the Windows Sound Panel and was able to set jPlay to use Kernel streaming.

I installed this hub powered by a LPS at Ted’s suggestion about a month ago and didn’t notice the problem until now. JRiver was using the PS Audio USB driver.

Question for Ted: is there a way around this problem?

If you were using non-compliant USB cables they can cause problems like this, but the same can happen with some drivers from some PC sound cards.

Often USB problems can be corrected by rebooting the DS with the switch on the back. USB problems don’t usually require reloading the DS’s software.

I am using the Belkin cable that came with the hub between PC and hub and a JCAT USB between hub and DAC.

I’ll try rebooting the DAC.

Sounds reasonable. I hope that works for you.

Hi All,

Anyone here using HQPlayer with DS?
Would be grateful for any findings and comments.

Thanks.
Mev

Anyone tried FidelizerPro in addition to AO? This is an amazing improvement over “plain” JPLAY6 / AO. See the thread on the JPLAY Forum.

Try the free version of Fidelizer and you’ll hear what I mean…

BTW… these advances in playback sw continue to reveal more of the qualities of the DirectStream!

Herman.

Fidelizer and Fidelizer Pro have been discussed a number of times. See, e.g., here.

IMO JRiver is pretty flawless at delivering exactly what you have stored digitally using the asio driver with the ds, all those other programs that are supposed to make JRiver or FooBar better are scams and in no way associated with any of the programs, if you go to either JRiver or foobars wiki the DEV’s specifically call out JPlay as a sham and state they served cease and desist orders to them to stop using logos and other copyrighted materials…its kinda like the other shams out there the so called upgrade companies that claim to magically increase SQ with some silver tape and slathering paste all over your gear…lol…don’t get taken in by crazy claims

JimSatala77 said IMO JRiver is pretty flawless at delivering exactly what you have stored digitally using the asio driver with the ds, all those other programs that are supposed to make JRiver or FooBar better are scams and in no way associated with any of the programs, if you go to either JRiver or foobars wiki the DEV's specifically call out JPlay as a sham and state they served cease and desist orders to them to stop using logos and other copyrighted materials...its kinda like the other shams out there the so called upgrade companies that claim to magically increase SQ with some silver tape and slathering paste all over your gear..lol..don't get taken in by crazy claims
... so let's use our ears - rather than eyes - to assess SQ advancements ...

I feel you are misinformed and stolid try things for yourself. Read and try and post. As I do. Hopefully you write better than I do and others may understand you lol.

This is digital audio nothing is real including the magic you like. It’s all magic.

The war from j river and others is for reasons that we as end users should care about other than if it keeps us from getting the sound we like.

And the sound we like as individuals not as a mass.

j river is a very good start and fine if you stay there. But changes that some may like can be had by adding on.

My ref server cost me over 6K in parts alone.

Under force from frinds who swore to have me try it. I did

it for me made a improvement but is complex to use.

My server uses foobar, and last month I added the free version of fidalizerto my server. I immediately heard a nice improvement in the sound of my server. I will take scams like that anytime.

As I understand it a lot these programs basically block Windows (or the Mac OS, although there seem to be fewer options for that OS) from engaging in activities that are unnecessary for audio purposes and in fact may hurtful. General purposes operating systems are constantly doing all kinds of things in the background that take processor and network time. Limiting them to those that are truly essential isn’t magic. Just common sense.

No. It is magic. No question.

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I didn’t know elk were such superstitious creatures.

It is a fact that previous versions of JPlay, Fidelizer and other such programs caused serious system stability problems for some (many?) users. Tho there are many seemingly superfluous services and programs running under windows, in fact there are few that can be disabled for everyone without causing various obscure loss of function for some users.

I’ll take people at their word that JPlay, etc. are no longer quite as cavalier disabling programs/features and I assume that they will let you undo any of their changes on demand (if not stay away from them like the plague.)

I do think that on a system that’s dedicated for ONLY playing music/being a music server that these programs can be useful in disabling/configuring many things that are irrelevant or out and out hostile for music playing programs - BUT don’t expect any support on any music programs (or anything else) if you use JPlay, Fidelizer or similar programs and be sure to mention that you use them if you do choose to ask for help anywhere.

I can’t tell you the number of hours I’ve personally wasted helping others fixing or trying to fix the damage from careless “optimization” of Windows machines (in addition to the time I’ve wasted fixing some of my own “optimizations”) Often the most rational fix is to reinstall everything (except the optimization programs.)

Ted, You aren’t the only who has said, “Talk to the program’s developers, not us.” I’ve found JPlay is fine (hibernation off) and since yesterday Fidelizer free is as well, at least up to the Audiophile option (didn’t try Extreme). When the Comodo weekly AV run came on, browser page loading really slowed down, but Comodo seems to have that effect anyway, no matter what’s loaded here. Turning off JPlay and Fidelizer is easy in Windows Task Mgr, just like any other service or process.