Is There Any Point To Entry Level Vinyl?

I initially had my deck setup on a cabinet with the power sources alongside it and got a hum through one of the channels. I took the whole setup to my local dealer to try to recreate it, but we couldn’t and he told me it was likely the power supplies disturbing with the needle due to electric fields.

I ended up buying a proper rack stand for the lot and put the power sources on the bottom shelf, then the Amp and with the deck on the top and haven’t had any kind of interference since. Absolutely breathtakingly quiet to the point where I just had no idea that vinyl could sound that clear.

An analogue setup is always likely to be more sensitive than a digital one just because of the design.

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That and the noise manifests itself differently with analog, for instance a turntable with a Grado cartridge, versus digital streaming. The latter has its own set of noise issues.

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@SpyderTracks Nice setup! Is that a PrimaLuna?

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I’m about to dip my toes into vinyl. I haven’t had a turntable in over 35 years. But I am curious now that I have decent system based around CDs to see what the difference/hype is. Also, there seems to be a lot music being released or rereleased only on vinyl (although there is generally a digital download option, which is whole different story).

I’ve decided to try a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon EVO because of the great reviews, a good price point, and one of my local brick-and-mortars has them. I’m going to get a Schitt Mani phone pre for similar reasons. I’ve already got a buyer for the turntable if decide to forgo vinyl (unlikely) or quickly decide to upgrade to Al’s redundant P10 (I’ll send him a check from my Bank of Nigeria account…).

My question for the forum members has to do with cables. The turntable will be about 8 feet from my SGCD. It seems like I should probably run a short set of cables from the turntable to the Mani (because of the low voltage output from the turntable), then the longer run from the Mani to the SGCD. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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FWIW, CNET preferred the Evo Debut Carbon over the Fluance RT85…

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Exactly that’s the way to do. Place the phono amp close to the turntable with short connection. No reason to do any unusual stuff like 5-10“ cabling to the phono, just as close as possible in a normal way to limit cabling to 2-3+ ft or how long your cable coming from the turntable is.

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It is indeed, just an Evo 100 Integrated, but even as an entry level unit, it really is quite sublime. Only recently got it, managed to find it ex display from a company up in Scotland, they’d opened it and placed it in the store last March literally a week before lockdown and then had to close shop. I managed to secure it from them and they gave me a 40% discount!

It’s absolutely pristine and quite beautfiul, fits my needs (and restricted budget) quite superbly, I’m absolutely blown away by it!

Just some tube porn for those in the need:

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If you can’t pry the P10 from Als hands I have a redundant planar 8 and Stella phono pre. Al and I have headed down similar Techdas 3 premium roads.

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I would also try keeping the tonearm cable in your situation as short as possible with the caveat that you don’t go to short to handle future rack adjustments.

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Just to warn how far this insane hobby can go…

I just ordered the release reviewed here after struggling a while. Buy now or cry later … you will throw away any SACD for it…but for sure not everyone will get so addicted to need all this stuff :wink:

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You reminded me I need to get Texas Flood now; it’s also going up in value daily.

First things, I apologize for my Sounders crushing your Loons last night.

Those Techdas decks are sweet! I might take you up on the P8 and Stellar Phono Pre if (when) I decide to upgrade. In the back of my head I know I’m heading down the vinyl money pit, and I was already planning on the Stellar Pre as the obvious next step!

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I’ve got the UD1S pressing of Bridge Over Troubled Water, yes they are insanely expensive, but MY GOD, the sound they put out is just incredible and fully justifies the price IMHO.

That and they sell out in pre sales, and to find one afterwards will set you back at least double in the first 6 months of release and only going up after that.

I want the Janis Joplin - Pearl one next!

Are you sure an audiophile version of the Joplin makes sense? My memory of the recording quality is that it’s not that great…

What’s the story with how vinyl is released? With CD’s, there was price fixing, but they weren’t released on a limited production basis. They’d produce as much as the market needed. The price fixing wasn’t related to limited supply.

If a vinyl release sells out on pre-sales, and then quickly doubles in price in the aftermarket - all of that smells a bit fishy. Are these limited production runs in the face of far greater demand vinyl’s way to price fix?

I’d say those elaborate releases no one wants to have in stock for too long. Not sure if it’s also a cost issue of licenses. No one has interest in high out of print prices except some buyers who buy it for reselling.

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Really? I love it personally, have only heard it on digital but thought it was a great recording for the time.

Long ago in my case, maybe I have to relisten.

I think you are going to have to start at the $1K level including a turntable, a better than basic phono preamp, and a cart. Many including myself have tried the under $100 Audio Technica VM series and find them excellent for the money. $500 for the table only and then $400 for a phono stage, what for many is the weakest link. This will bring you enjoyment.

Marantz Model 30 has arrived. It’s internal phono preamp is the first step of my vinyl journey. Of course will depend on how the Marantz sounds vs Hegel, hope to reach a conclusion by the end of the week.

Can say out of the box that it looks amazing. The build quality and industrial design qualities are the best I’ve personally had in my listening salon. The top, front and sides have no visible screws. There are just the copper screws on the back. The design look honestly blows away Hegel and PS Audio gear I’ve owned (DSJ, stellar stack).

The front is stunning looking. Has a 3D effect of the control knobs floating in space.

The chassis is super solid aluminum and steel, reminds me of Esoteric photos I’ve seen in Music Direct catalogs.

No doubt, it’s a looker. But it comes down to sound. We shall see.

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