I do get the rest, but simply sent the data portion
I see nothing about jitter and packets lost measurements you noted that Ookla test provided
Can you enlarge it and look below the up and down speeds. I should have made it larger.
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been using browser (eg, Firefox)
with the Speed test computer program, I see jitter and packet loss
donât know if this is fully relevant to what the DAC eventually gets (ie, router, switch, streamer could add jitter and packet loss; also seems 1 ms jitter not a good thing
update: found this browser test that reports jitter numberâŚSpeed Test Plus: Internet Speed & Quality
Well if I have 1or 2ms of jitter going into AL via ethernet then AL to MKll dac, wouldnât the AL correct that jitter?
I just tried the Speed test plus and it still gave me 2ms of jitter, Says my connection is excellent. I am out in the country in WV. Not much interference out here.
I just got mine. It sounds ok, not as big a difference as adding the LHY SW-6 to my network, or changing my generic CAT6 to BJC CAT6A for that matter. Itâs much more subtle than I was expecting given the comments/gushes. I will give it some more time.
Oops just kidding, I have the new version and just realized I reversed the in/out cables⌠
definitely more audible now!
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Your second post has clarified the joke of the century on streaming tweak
However, I will be equally shocked if you donât hear major improvement from LHY SW-10 Pro.
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Yeah Iâm looking forward to the SW-10 Pro. The SW6 was my first ear-opener wrt network gear, so will be interesting to see what the SW-10 adds.
I left the Muon running overnight. I havenât tried switching it out yet but the system doesnât âfeelâ substantially different yet. Itâs maybe got a bit more âBritâ flavor to it - crisper, more articulate (I refuse to use that 4-letter acronym) - which isnât a bad thing but is more of a matter of taste. The soundstage does seem to be opening up with time as well. Itâs likely if I had started with the Muon (vs switch/ethernet) I would have heard a bigger difference, but the other upgrades were much cheaper and clearly no-regrets.
Iâll let it run in several lore days as recommended, which coincidentally is when the SW-10 will arrive.
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If my memory serves me right, Muon Pro didnât require a significant break-in time. In my system it took some murkiness out from streaming, and it doesnât change soundstage that much.
You may find LHY SW-10 Pro bring in a different type of improvement. Looking forward to your thoughts on how much improvement it brings. It does require 100 hours of break-in in my system (the first day or two was not that impressive).
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I also use the Muon Pro in combination with the SW-6.
Yes, according to Network Acoustics, the Muon requires some break-in time.
I get the best results using the regular RJ45 port â not the isolated one.
As NA also recommended.
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I will give the regular port a try! Makes sense that it would be redundant with the Muonâs filtering.
Ok, I did some quick comparisons of my Grimm MU1 connected to the SW6 via Muon on non-isolated port, straight from the same port, and straight from the isolated port.
With one recording (Janine Jansen Prokofiev Concerto), taking the Muon out resulted in a fairly substantial collapse of the soundstage - the center image got so hollow I wasnât sure if somehow one of the channels was out of phase. Ok slight exaggeration but it was definitely audible - the solo violin did not sound as good without Muon and the orchestral accompaniment lost some clarity and dynamics. Similar results with a smaller scale recording (James Ehnes Beethoven sonatas) - Muon sounds clearer, more focused and with much better staging.
Interestingly the SW6 isolated port closes a good amount of the gap to Muon - in fact it sounds really good. Itâs got a beefier bottom end than the Muon on the standard port, perhaps a tad bloated (Muon is very articulate) but I rather like it in my system. The Prokofiev concerto in particular sounds dynamic and lively - the Muon is ultimately more accurate, but a bit more reserved. The SW6 isolated port is a lot of fun and tbh I could live happily with it. Will get interesting when the SW10 arrives.
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I use the isolated port with my Muon Pro. I also run my Muon Pro in reverse which makes me wonder does it make a difference with the new style Muon Pro? The original with the fixed Ethernet on one end sounds better closer to the switch on my system which is the opposite of where itâs supposed to be. I will be curious if owners of the newly designed Muon Pro will experience any sonic difference??
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I started with the recommended direction too, but soon changed to reverse direction so Shunyata Omega is on the streamer side. The fixed-end cable of Muon Pro is a good one, but itâs not extraordinary. On streaming the best Ethernet cable needs to be used in front of the streamer.
To answer your question, the new Muon Pro will sound better provided if youâre using better Ethernet cables on both sides (hint, two Stealths)
Ironically this is how I started out (Muon backwards out of the isolated port), which led to my comment that it wasnât doing a whole lot for me. But if the theory is to have the Muon system closest to the switch, then that is configuration I havenât tried yet (switch â [muon cable] â muon in).
Too many permutations! Good thing I have vinyl now for when I need a break from the madnessâŚ
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My âbestâ ethernet cables are BJC Belden CAT6A so Iâm assuming the Muon cable is the best one I have in the house at the momentâŚ
Is this the Stealth yâall are using?
I get these cables make a difference, but I donât know if I can get myself to do it⌠the cost and fussiness is getting a little out of control, and it only improves the streaming side of things. I was listening to an album last night thinking âoh wow now this is what Iâm talking about! this sounds great!â Only to realize it was one of my SACD-ripped DSD tracks being served off the MU1, so the network had little to nothing to do with it. I would be better off just purchasing and downloading all the hi-res tracks that I like⌠reminds me of when I asked the provider of my analog setup if I should consider upgrading my rig further, his response was âjust buy more vinyl.â
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Waiting for my tee time so I have a bit of time. Ethernet cables make a difference, but it has the least effect on SQ compared to other types of digital cables. For example, my previous USB cable comparison made a much bigger impact on SQ.
So, spending your money on other areas first.
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IME network gear also impacts the SQ of locally stored files. My library is entirely local, and unfortunately I can still hear the impact of network cables, switches, power supplies etc. Itâs all about controlling the noise that reaches the server through the network.
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Unfortunately I did notice this as well⌠though the impact on streaming was greater.
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