I still consider myself a bit behind on the streaming audio curve, but I am at the forefront in throwing money at anything that might make streaming sound as good as physical media.
Digital filters, switches, and now, upgraded power supplies, have brought me closer to that goal.
The Origin is the latest entry from NA that addresses the long known need for clean power for analog
and digital devices. This unit is similar to the one powering the Tempus, just beefier to be used in more applications. It is powering my router.
Is it overkill? Maybe. A $2K psu on a $200 router sounds like bad math. But, it does make a difference. I would best describe it as another digital veil liftedā¦a bit quieter, refined, focused.
The bottom line would be that things just sound more how I think they should sound. This is
particularly evident when instruments have less glare and edge and become more inviting.
A word of caution. I donāt think anyone should run out and buy one unless a resolving system is in place and a quality network filter and switch ( Muon and Tempus in my case) are in place. The difference that these devices brought were greater than inserting the Origin.
So, the Origin is nice. It reinforces the need for clean power, even in simple, āpass-thruā devices.
More is more, again. Sigh.
Hey buddy, got my mitt out waiting the cash to fly!
Oh wait, I may have taken that quote out of context ā¦
As an old Origin owner I completely agree with your opinion!
I cant n wonāt buy into streaming⦠itāll be the expedited death of perfect audio CDsā¦
They want us to pay for internet on phones and at home. For Netflix n YouTube premium⦠tidal n various audiophile avenues⦠we keep buying Into laziness and less quality while we invest to get maximum quality.
I see most everyone taking a step forward then 2 steps backā¦
Opening post⦠spending amounts to perfect streaming quality while you pay for streaming.
I borrow CDs off friends and stereoshops. Rip them into flac building a massive free library. I buy CDs from used cd shops rip them n trade them back in, unless theyre special ill keep em for CD spinning. I own my musicā¦
Ill have a solid CD player for the great CDs Iāve collected and support the analog lifestyle long as possible.
Im gonna say this with ignorance⦠Theres no way tossing music through boxes and wifi to a dac to an amplifier is any good. Better then mp3 but not to audiophile standardā¦
An prove to me tidal an other streaming companyās are ripping music properly n giving you real flac contentā¦
I think were slowly getting the wool pulled over our eyes as time goes on over convenience an laziness.
If you want convenience rip CDs n build a flac library⦠put it on a device and hook it upā¦
50K to 100K systems with streaming boxes! Im sorry but if Iāve shown you on the teddy bear where it hurts this is my bone to pickā¦
What companies should be doing is making a pro dac or a box for usb sticks aka thumb drives aka digital storage devices plug n play pro grade catering to proper quality for people putting in the work. Not wasting time serving services that want life time subscriptions.
If anything find a way to create a bigger bandwidth type of Bluetooth that can carry flac⦠so we can enjoy our carefully created librariesā¦
Thats all for now. Thanks for your time LOL
Regardsā¦ š©š®š«šŖšŖš¦š“ ā ĪŠĪ©ĪŠÆĪ£ĆĆĪØšŖ (į¦Ėā£Ė)šŖ
LOL!
Ripped and sold my complete collection (SA)CDās, cd-player, vinyl, record player & phono stage to go all-in streaming.
Now enjoying Qobuz, Tidal and local files with my 150K systemā¦no regrets whatsoever!!
Just donāt do it then. Why should it hurt you if others spend 100k+ on systems used for streaming. The older I get the more convenience I like and the opportunity to be lazy can be a good thing.
I love being able to browse the largest ārecord storeā ever created 24x7. Very rarely do I listen to an entire album, mostly play lists and roon radio. Roon radio has introduced me to many of artists and tracks I never would have known about or tried on my own.
I will say, Iām not done upgrading my network just based on how much the NA Tempus switch improved my systems performance.
What were you using to piwer your router previously?
Lol you hardly know its all good⦠I put my opinion of streaming⦠its unknown and needs to be tested an until then yall putting faith in unknown quality an paying for it.
Might aswell start tossing unknown cables on the system
My god soldier! As you were then lmao
I jus cant. Its too unknown. Im gonna use my computer skills in a bit n bench test yall streaming stuffs n compare to full files n see if it measures up⦠But honestly all that cable power cord n speaker cable n interconnecs how urrr body make big deal yet everybody blindly goes for streaming. Seems obsessiveto go pro on cords when streaming is taken meh convenience ya ya know lmao
I cant ⦠lol its to gapped. Im calling it.. yall find out one day streaming deficited yall systems lol
DirectStream āBit Perfect Testā discussions
PS Audio provides special FLAC test files (e.g. 24/96, 24/192) that the DAC recognises. If the data arrives unaltered, the DAC should light up āBit Perfectā on its display.
In practice, people report that the āBit Perfectā indication sometimes flickers or disappears, especially when looping tracks, applying volume controls, or when thereās a gapless transition.
Some users also report that using certain inputs (e.g. I2S) or components in the chain may prevent the bit perfect designation from showing, likely because some link in the chain is altering the data bits.
So even with PS Audioās built-in test tools, real-world chains (software + hardware) often donāt stay āpureā enough to pass continuously.
Volume controls, OS-level processing, DSP, and āenhancementsā in audio software can introduce changes ā even if minor ā and break bit perfect status.
On PS Audio forums people explicitly say: āthe bit perfect should stay on ⦠except possibly if you have test tracks looped ⦠if you have a volume setting somewhere thatās just a little off (or other DSP)ā
The DAC display sometimes shows ā24 bitsā even when playing a Redbook (16-bit) file ā thatās a red flag (suggesting extra bits or padding creeping in)
In real-world chains, itās common to see bits slip or get altered ā especially when any software or driver layer touches the signal.
Passing the test on those special files doesnāt guarantee all your music is passing (especially if theyāre different masters or bit depths).
Detecting your differences may require very controlled conditions (no intervening processing, same version/master), and even then, bit-level identity is hard when chain variance is possible.
So to my point yallā¦. Its unstable, unverified fully! No company can guarantee you or would back it up⦠all my research says its micky mouse an nothing like old school analog
Yours truly ā¦ š©š®š«šŖšŖš¦š“ ā ĪŠĪ©ĪŠÆĪ£ĆĆĪØšŖ (į¦Ėā£Ė)šŖ
I will say there is a place for streaming. I think of the physically disabled. What are they to do who are unable to flip a record or change a CD? At least they have an avenue to music. Other than that itās a music stealing machine.
Thats fine, and im happy if it aids in that perspective an gets them 3/4s of the way there.
But theres nobody thats gonna tell me it beats a redbook CD⦠thats my only steril debate.
anyway, ima let it go. My goal isnt to discourage or tell anyome not to stream⦠but if youāre capable an have the means a true audiophile gets off his rocker an changes discs.
If you dont have the health or means for various reasons this conversation isnt towards thoseā¦
Happy hump day tommorow⦠Spooky out
If this question is directed to me, the router was powered by its own supplied wall wart before.
I tried to use a $300 IFi supply, but my AT&T router has an incompatible power connector.
Yes, sorry I forgot to tag ya. Thank you for the info!
Thatās a really helpful breakdown, thanks for sharing your impressions. I completely agree ā once the system is resolving enough, even āsmallā upgrades like a cleaner PSU start to show their value.
I had a similar experience when I powered my router and network switch separately with a linear supply. The difference wasnāt night and day, but the overall presentation became more relaxed and organic ā less glare, tighter bass, and better spatial cues.
The Network Acoustics Origin sounds like itās in that same category of refinement. For anyone on the fence, Iād say your note about system balance is spot on. Without a solid foundation (good switch and cables), the impact can get lost.
Thanks again for the insight ā āmore is moreā sums up this hobby perfectly .