Fair question - I don’t know. I changed “some” to “at least one.”
My sense is that when shopping for $30k speakers, most dealers would help with the setup and install, but I’ve never purchased a speaker even half that expensive, so I couldn’t say for sure. Maybe others here have direct experience with purchasing speakers at those price points and above and could comment on whether it included any delivery and setup help.
I don’t think they do it anymore, but I remember Vandersteen going to a friend’s house to set up his top of the line speakers. I think those speakers cost a zillion dollars though.
And that was about 10 years ago.
I don’t think in PS Audio FR30 case that the white glove will assemble and position the speakers. I think it will be just delivery, you will need to do the unboxing and assembling yourself.
This is where the shutting of dealers kind of sucks. In this price range it used to be dealer responsibility to come out and set it up. In a sea of dealers this would be one area of their business that set them apart. Now, it’s mostly up to you. But, we’ve also got a lot for information on where to start, what to listen for, inexpensive software and calibrated microphones, etc for DIY setup. It’s like anything… The price has come down because the “service” side of the industry has changed OR the price has gone up because so few companies provide such a level of service they can charge for it now.
I’ve invested a lot of time learning how to set-up my speakers properly. I’m not sure I trust some random someone else to do it. Especially not the local “home theater installer” most of the local dealers send out to do installs these days (at least in my area). I’d want to see your resume before I give you access to my home.
Probably could add the Magico A5.
FANTASTIC!!!
I really dig the fact that even speaker placement and the challenges that can pose was taken into consideration! Bravo!!!
That is correct. They will deliver the boxes where you wish them to be but you will unbox them. The big boxes have built in wheels which make it easy and they are designed to easily be taken out of the boxes.
When assembling my YG Sonja (3-part speakers) I have found those to be indispensable. They provide “handles” to each speaker part.
That is a great idea.
Trust me. You won’t regret it.
When I saw the FR30 specs, I have been a bit surprised by the sensitivity number. At the very beginning I remember Paul saying he was aimiing for a high sentivity, around 100 and at the end I believe the figure to be 87, I guess that kisses good bye to the idea of using a tube amplifier.
Many, many tube amplifiers will happily drive the new PS Audio speakers.
Define what you mean by “tube amplifier”.
IMHO there’s a large number of tube amps at many price points that should easily drive the FR30.
Basically all amplifiers with a power in the 20-70 range.
My PrimaLuna would happily power them, I think most tube amps would to be honest.
I have a primaluna myself and I am not sure it could
I’m currently running 88db speakers off my PrimaLuna with no problems whatsoever.
Absolutely. I still can’t figure out where all this information (if that’s the correct term) is coming from suggesting how power hungry the FR30s must be. They aren’t going to work well with a 10 watt amplifier, true, but ANY 100 watt and above amplifier is going to be fine. Especially a tube amp.
With respect to tubes, the FR30 is one of the best loads possible. It’s almost purely resistive, something tube amps love. What they don’t like is when the impedance load is all over the map. We were just looking at the specs for a new (popular speaker that won’t be named) and yikes! They dip down to below an Ohm and shoot up to above 10Ω. That’s not something folks pay a lot of attention to but it sure does matter.
Yes, thank you, Elk. Absolutely true.
I don’t remember ever saying that—at least not while sober. I was hoping we’d get to 90dB sensitivity. 100dB has with it so many compromises that I doubt I would ever consider that to be a goal. Maybe I was drunk.