New PS Audio speakers?

I just don’t understand the endless “having a dealer is better” posts. It doesn’t matter if it is or isn’t. Whoever prefers that method should stop looking at PSA.

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They should just sell through Crutchfield so we can hear how they compare

:stuck_out_tongue: HA!

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HA! is too kind!

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We could add “what we learned about the FR30” to the first post in this thread. We can add new things, clarify, and correct as we move along.

Another option is to start a thread for the purpose, but close it to comment, although we could add to the post making up that thread.

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That sounds good to me. But, you have far more experience with these threads than I ever will. I’ll follow your lead.

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I have added your information to the first thread. Let me know if we ever need additions or changes.

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The FR-30 reportedly sounds so good that they will replace the IRS V in music room 2, and the IRS V has already been moved to music room 3.

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In Europe PS Audio is sold via dealer network, the only question is, which dealer will have the FR30 in stock (at his own cost) for demonstration

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b) in Europe roughly EUR 42.000 (including sales tax, approx 21% mandatory even of ordered on-line abroad), if the information in other threads are correct
c) In Europe the speakers can not be ordered directly at PS Audio, maybe at a dealer, but no other brand charges 10% pre-order costs through a dealer network
d) PSA’s direct sales great buy and try program does not apply in Europe, instead of that you might be able to agree a no upfront payment home demo by the dealer at your home, the least EU customers can expect for paying the premium
e) PSA’s direct trade in program does not apply in Europe, you need to negotiate with the dealer, which in my experience results in good deals either

As my screen name would indicate mine in mostly no longer attached.

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It’s amazing how many experts there are until it’s time to lay the money down.

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See post 4001 from @Jedi

Post replaced by a wish for a happy, prosperous and healthy 2022 for those who may or may not buy the new speakers :tulip:

All the negativity!!! Why does the cost of the FR30s and the availability of same in Europe be of a concern for you! You can’t afford them… You went apoplectic, ad nauseum, at the cost of the Steller Phono Amplifier - so I can’t see you owning a pair of FR30s. FR30s: success or failure has no bearing on you…

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re, 7e above, how many mfrs offer an upfront, agreed upon trade in policy?

I can understand the need (and value) of posting divergent opinions, including negative ones, but it seems to me that purpose was served many, many posts ago, here and in the FR30 power thread.

I feel bad for @Elk, who has to continually decide whether it’s worth keeping this going just for the 10% useful content it contains. And I think that’s a generous estimate.

And I suspect that when the first wave of production units gets in the hands of the early adopters, and we start seeing some review threads, the naysayers will raise these issues again, anew.

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I don’t think that there is any filter on this thread that excludes positive excitement or impressions or expectations for the forthcoming speakers. I suspect that some of those who are complaining about so-called “negativity” really are just saddened that there isn’t more buzz or excitement on the forum since the release announcement.

There has been lots of bashing re “these speakers are not for you,” or “you shouldn’t look at these,” or “I just don’t understand all the misinformation,” or “you can’t afford these.” That’s fine, that’s an opinion - I’ve no problem with that.

But for the posters telling folks who these speakers are for and aren’t for, maybe you should encourage those who they “are for” to speak up? A ton is known about the speakers (specs, price, country of manufacture, marketing plan, etc.) - start pumping them up and lauding the known aspects of the product.

For example, I remember only one poster positively commenting on all of the videos Chris did on the release page. Why aren’t those who these speakers “are for” discussing those aspects?

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I have no dog in this fight either way. But even if there were zero positive comments, it wouldn’t change the fact that the same negative points are being repeated ad nauseum. My comment was simply an observation of that.

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PS Audio has been known for a very long time as a customer friendly business. Their customer service is, and I speak from experience, crazy good. It would seem that some people in this thread really need to find something better to do with the abundant free time they seem to have (especially those whom are clearly not in the market for the FR30, which are at very least several of the biggest offenders in this thread) and let the customer friendly, customer focused business continue to do what they do best: take good care of their customers. Not a customer? Why are you on the website of a business trying to…well, do business? It’s uncouth.

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You don’t know me or what I am thinking. But there you go again “guessing” what I and others intentions are/lie. You always have to reply and state the facts as you perceive them to be. Like the pithy Rega putdown when I said Rega had ceased speaker production…you said Rega had done the right thing by cancelling speaker production. Really! You being intimate with the internal workings at Rega. You don’t like Rega speakers - ‘that’s fine’ - …only YOUR opinion. (I don’t own Rega speakers)

You may be sad - I’m not in the least bit sad that there isn’t more buzz or excitement on the forum since the release announcement. I could care less just now - because it is all noise and speculation. I am fortunate that I can afford them. When the speakers are in UK I will check them out .!

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Being a glass is half-full sort, I find there to be a lot of excitement and interest in the speakers.

I do not understand the endless repetitious negativity of some, and the continuing throwing up of virtual roadblocks. No, it will not take the power of two locomotives to drive these speakers to the SPL of a single whispering vole. Please stop, you are sucking the life out of the thread.

@vkennedy61 did a wonderful job of compiling known information. His list is now at the beginning of the thread. I made a few additions based on @Rudolf_Appel 's post which may be of interest to potential European buyers.

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