New PS Audio speakers?

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I am happy to help if anyone would like assistance.

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If only I could get paid for my supporting role.

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I dont mind being publicly notified to check my messages as I dont pay a lot of attention to the avatar in the corner of the page. Speaking of same I have a message to look at!

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I only pay attention to the voices in my head telling me to not share what the voices in my head are screaming.

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aangen,

I understand that you may not want to share what the voices in your head are screaming, but we all want to know if they sound realistic, make the speakers disappear, present a wide and deep soundstage, and seem to be right in the room with you.

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To me it isn’t nonsense. My Infinity Modulus system definitely had a bad incompatibility. Back in 1998, with my old NAD receiver failing, I decided to upgrade to a preamp and poweramp. I was able to talk a store into letting me bring a highly rated solid state preamp and amp combo home to audition with my speakers. Well, the sound was harsh, just too harsh. I was an inexperienced audiophile at the time, but I did know enough to trust my ears. I had never thought of or looked at a tube amp at that point in my life, and certainly never thought I would be buying a tube amp, but that was the next suggestion from the audio retailer. They would not let me bring the tubes home with me for auditioning, but they did bring them to my listening room. It took only 5 seconds of listening to know that I was purchasing a tube preamp and poweramp. Years later I found out that Arnie Nudell designed the Modulus using tubes.
One of the downsides of the Infinity Modulus system was a weak upper bass. The solid state combo had a slight suckout in the upper bass and a slight peak in the lower treble. This did not match well with the small satellites, resulting in a harsh sound. The CJ tubes, on the other hand, have a bump in the upper bass that helps to offset the weak upper bass of the speakers, and a magic midrange that mates well with the uncolored midrange of the speakers. The CJ tubes also mate well with the emit K tweeter. The low frequencies are handled by the Modulus subwoofer with it’s own amp, and an active crossover box that splits the low frequencies from the rest of the audio spectrum. This allows the tube amp to not see nor try to power the lower frequencies.
My current speakers, the Sonist Audio Concerto 4, their downside is a pronounced upper bass, which, on rock music, does not match well with the pronounced upper bass of the CJ tubes, resulting in a muddy sound with most rock music. Though violin concerto’s, jazz and female vocals do sound fantastic. With a BHK Preamp and M1200 amp powering the Sonist speakers, the pronounced upper bass of the speakers is minimized, and the tube input stages of the PS Audio gear do their magic. The dynamic abilities of the speakers and the M1200 work very well together. I can listen to well recorded classical, jazz or rock, and they all sound very, very good. So I have a different experience regarding matching amps to speakers.

I doubt there are any here who would disagree with you. Amps and speakers need to work together and not all do. It often takes a bit of trial and error to find what pleases a given listener.

My point is there are some who make this appear to be nearly impossible, requiring extraordinary skills, and magical expertise. I disagree with this. We can all find what we like with a bit of effort - as your story demonstrates.

Congratulations for putting together a system which works wonderfully well and pleases you!

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Totally agree with you with the over-exaggerations you’re describing, and over-exaggerating brings and encourages confusion versus clarity. You brought clarity, and I hope I did too.

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cj amplification with Genesis is magical, Knowing this as my Genesis Vs are powered by a cj Premier 11a.

Taking the time and effort to accomplish a meaningful pairing has significant benefits. How one gets there is an individual decision suited to one’s preferences, time and resources. Discounting the importance of pairing can result in a missed listening opportunity. It is not worth obsess over, but should not be entirely discounting. This is why when I consider purchasing new speakers I consider my current amplification and the need to possibly change amplification best suited to the speakers under consideration.

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Surely you should have a good set of measurements of these speakers…?!?
But can’t find it on the product page??

Scroll down to the end of the product page and click on “Learn More”

Thx, but no measurements there…just advertising…?!?
Surely PS-Audio have a full suite of measurements, or do we have to wait for John Atkinson to provide some… :wink:…?

What measurements to you seek which are not provided?

Well…how about…any? NO measurements are provided.
I’d like to see, for instance, frequency response, off-axis response, distorsion, impedance etc. I mean actual graphic measurements…

I assume you have seen the specs for frequency response, impedance, sensitivity, etc. and you find these inadequate.

Graphs as Stereophile publishes are only rarely provided by manufacturers.

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I’ve been speaker shopping for a few months and can’t recall a single manufacturer I’ve looked at provide that kind of measurement. Reviewers do, for sure.

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The only ones I’ve seen providing output graphs are Buchardt.

Never seen any other manufacturer doing so.

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The specs are provided on the product page. You have to explore a bit.

Start here:

I suspect he’s making a deliberate distinction between specs and measurements.

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Maybe so…