Or maybe embarrassed that he couldn’t manage to navigate a website to learn much of what he wanted to know? Paul has said that some of the first batch of production speakers will be going to reviewers; possibly a pair to Stereophile for eventual measurement by JA. Who knows? Since the first two batches are sold out, there is certainly time for this to take place before he can place an order to reserve a pair should he be on the fence about it.
I love this community (or family), but just like a real family, I guess some people are just nudgey, for the lack of a better word. Call me naïve, but I trust that after many years and what I have to imagine is a development budget somewhere in the millions of dollars, PS Audio has produced a product that performs and indeed, measures superbly.
Me, too, but for purely curiosity/recreational reasons, since I’ll never be a player in that price market. So it probably won’t happen without a trip to Boulder, or, if shows ever get on their feet again, in a crowded PSA demo room. We’ll just have to wait and see.
They can easily send them to Erin’s Audio Corner who owns the $100K Klippel NFS and doesn’t charge anything for measuring. Of course, you then have http://warkwyn.com for pay.
Anyone who thinks PSA doesn’t have access to Klippels, Spinoramas, etc. is delusional. The likely reason for not printing the info (for all manufacturers) is that those measurements are not representative of what you’ll hear in your room. And if they did, with the caveat “measurements taken in such and such acoustic space under such and such conditions, blah blah blah”, everyone will start crying “but that’s not the space I listen in! These measurements are not representative!”. No matter what, people will always find reasons to biich and complain…so what’s the point? It’s an exercise in futility. Listen to them and decide if you like them or not. Or don’t…in the big scheme of things it doesn’t matter.
If you must know the relevant frequency response, get a calibrated mic and some software like Cleo or REW and measure in your room. BTW, you should do that with your current speakers - I guarantee you’ll be depressed, saddened and, demoralized by the results.
Honestly I’m starting to get really turned off by audiophiles. The nervosa is next level.
Delusional never seems to go out of style. Interesting that a $100k piece of testing gear is cool, but a pair of speakers a third of that price is the subject of scrutiny and derision.
Personally, I have difficulty trusting a $100k piece of test gear unless it has been tested on a say, a quarter-million dollar piece of test gear.
If you understood how walls, furniture, etc. effect the real polar plot (ie, how things interact and the end result), you would go back and delete your statement.
Now, if Erin is doing these measurements in YOUR room, that’s a very different story.
If you want as close as possible to flat at home, buy whatever speakers and rebuild the crossovers (and probably the baffle…and probably swap out the drivers). Basically build your own speakers from the group up to match your listening space. It’s not rocket science.
Well, there is a scenario where a manufacturer’s full measurements can be very useful - a properly (technically proper, not a few random diffusers or plants) treated listening room.
Dunlavy tested every speaker they made in their own anechoic chamber to verify it made specs. Upon request they would send you the graphs of the test results for your specific speakers. It was neat to receive them.
I plan to put in an order for a pair of the FR30s. I’m waiting for the first round of reviews to come in before pulling the trigger. I would still appreciate seeing these speakers tested on the Klippel NFS to see how they measure up compared to the reviews. Either test them upfront, or they’ll eventually get tested somewhere down the line. It seems to me it would be in more of a positive atmosphere upfront. Per Paul, the FR30 is taking the place of the IRSV for the PSA reference speaker. Barring a handful of negative reviews, I’m envisioning a pair with my BHK PS Audio rig regardless of the test results from a Klipple report.
I used to have a pair of Genesis speakers that had individual response frequencies printed on the box. This is Genesis Physics, NOT the Genesis that Paul was with.
