I don’t think I told you that I bought two of the ones you recommended. Currently using them about 18" or so away from the speakers to relieve some of the stress on the connectors. So far so good.
Thanks for the tip!
I don’t think I told you that I bought two of the ones you recommended. Currently using them about 18" or so away from the speakers to relieve some of the stress on the connectors. So far so good.
Thanks for the tip!
Glad you like them
The Cable Company has them listed at $60 for one and $399 for a set of eight.
Bunking Cable Lifters - Positive Feedback (positive-feedback.com)
Please do not confuse bunking for debunking! This article addresses the benefits of air as a dielectric.
Cable lifters tend to only address the need to lift the cables from the floor (to get rid of the “charge in the floor”). However, they implement another problem, vibrations to the speakers and amp. Floor usually move with background seismic earth movements (usually 6-8 Hz). Earth movements are approx. 400x the movement of a tweeter producing sound.
That is why Townshend speaker podiums and equipment platform floats off (isolates) from 2,5 Hz. They float off lower than Gaia and gets better reviews.
A good cable lifter should not let the cables be moving with other frequencies than the speakers and the amp.
A good cable lifter could/should include several materials (maybe cork, spring with resonator prevention, cork, sorbothane, cork, sand, metal, wood, sorbothane and soft foam on top for free cable movement) The same theory could be used when floating off equipment, if you add massive wood in the layers.
So, my repurposed paper towel and toilet paper roll cores aren’t cutting it?
Sounds too carboard like dry flat like little air
Best wishes
If everything above is true, them I think we probably will be best served if we have different types of elevators for different types of music.
Perfect for separating those parallel runs of disparate, incompatible cables though…
Hmmmm interesting
When I was looking at isolating my Sopra 2’s I looked for professional reviews with measurements comparing both the Townshend and Isoacoustics products and could not find any. There are plenty of forums with opinions, but none with any measurements. Have you found professional reviews comparing the two? I somehow missed them when I looked.
I generally fall into the listen to a change vs measure a change camp. The Gaia I’s most definitely had a very positive impact on sound quality. Would I have picked the Townshend over the Gaia if they measured better? In this case maybe yes. The goal here was to isolate and that is measurable.
Thanks!
I bought a pair of Townsend Platforms for my Vivid Spirits. I mentioned this to George who enjoys many Townsend products and uses Townsend Super Tweeters in his home system. He said absolutely not for the Spirits. So the platforms live in the garage, alone and unloved.
I’d normally say maybe the next owner of the vivid would enjoy the platforms but since George is likely the next owner that won’t help any!
I´m really interested in how the Vivid Giya performs with Townshends. I have seen many pictures of this combination but never read any comments on the soundimprovements. Giya are known for interacting less with the room (than average boxed speakers). Townshend are known to make speakers interact less with the room. Both of them in combination might make it easier to get better sound in a room.
Sorbothane
Absorbs vibration from approx 30 Hz but can be made to absorb at lower frequencies if the sorbothane is made very thick (6-7 cm thickness needed to get below 10 Hz).
Why spring technology
A spring solution is the prefered solution if the goal is to absorb vibrations at low frequencies. If you would like to also prevent the spring post ringing, one needs a solution like Townsends rubber/controlled air ventilation system.
Gaia
Do not float off as low as Townshend. Have got a “back stopping” preventing movement backwards. This means that Gaia both in terms of frequency range and movement directions suffers from earth and traffic movements. Even if sound/bass frequencies from the speakers are isolated from returning back into the speakers, the earth seismic and trafic induced problems remains.
My thoughts
Gaia is a good product. I use Orea pucks and Iso-pucks both based on the same technologoy as Gaia. I also have got Townshend technology (acutally not on any stereo) and its fantastic.
Without doing a side by side A/B-test I guess that Gaia are best sound per dollar, when used on speakers, but Townshend is by far the best solution in terms of soundquality, at a higher price point.
That said, there are more ways of improving speakers at a low cost. Entreq Vibbeaters are very good and gives a better upgrade than Gaia in mid- to high frequencies. Vibbeaters are tough to fit on top of Giyas though…
Good info.
Thanks for sharing.
I’d be tempted to try them both on speakers or something else. Why did George think they’d not work? Change in driver height?
If only trying these solutions was as easy as a cable swap. Like hiring out yard work, I am more apt to hire my local dealer to send over two people to make the changes to the footers.
You know I don’t actually remember his reasons. Ordinarily it would be simple enough to try. But underneath the Spirits there are six feet that do a good job of keeping them upright. But it is difficult to lift them and the speakers are on spikes that settle in to cups in the top of the feet. So when you lift the speakers the feet come free. Then there is the matter of the speaker terminals being located under the speakers near the middle. Precarious at best. And my fancy shmancy speaker cables have soft silver spades. I have damaged one set. Bah.
If I had proper help I could try it. I probably will.