I bought a P15 in 2020 simply because my voltage fluctuated so badly my power conditioner would randomly turn my system off. I have relocated in 2022, and the new place has the most stable and clean power I ever experienced. I was tempted to retry the power conditioner. Without the P15, to my ears, my system loses on clarity, dimensionality, and on palpability. Measures are in the lab, music is my room and this is all that matters to me.
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Yes I remember it well. Paul issued an apology and promptly locked the thread, but this was after calling out @Dirk as a liar etc. and all the pile on from forum members. It transpired Dirk was 100% correct and PS Audio had screwed up. All of it put me off from buying a power regenerator!
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Donāt forget to tip your waitress. Theyāre workin hard for ya.
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I was hoping to avoid (opening up old wounds), that said, youāve referenced me twice. Yes, I encountered serious problems with two mains regenerators, and one of them expired in a puff of smoke.
The apology from Paul (4 years ago) wasnāt in regard to the power regenerator but other faulty PSA equipment. At the time all of this was happening I was lawyering up; but anyway, I now donāt / wonāt to go into it all - it was all conducted off the forum between Paul and I. Upshot, Paul replaced all of my PSA equipment and as an act of good will, āTSS DAC - FOCā, (still waiting on Tedās next marvel), Paul issued said apology. ( Iāve attached a segment of the apology.) (do a search if you so wish to read the apology in full ) My only gripe with the apology - I havenāt bought from all over the world - a strange thing to say.
Please donāt drag me back into this thread, etc. I will ignore the post(s) Itās all water under the bridge.
""I am posting this and then will lock it down. Thereās been a flurry of angry remarks and posts on this forum as of late and itās getting so theyāre not fun anymore. Thatās certainly never been why we started them in the first place.
First and foremost, I owe Dirk and apology. I jumped the proverbial gun and stated that the rust problem of his bottom plates was fake. Thatās clearly not true and I apologize. I was told by my production chief heād never seen anything like that and, since Dirk buys products from all over the worldā¦well I put two and two together and Fād up.
It is certainly true we havenāt seen anything like what Dirk experienced. I have asked him to send his serial numbers and place of purchase. Thatāll help us track down what was unique about these plates and how many others may potentially have this problem. Iāll report back when I have better info. From what we can tell it isnāt a widespread problem, but we shall find out.
Dirkās a good guy and I feel ashamed having doubted him for even a moment. My head hangs in shame.
Sorry, man. You were right. I was wrong.
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Sorry, Dirk, for opening up old wounds.!
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I know the feeling well.
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I think youāre on to something here. I disabled āregenā on the two outlets that allow for this and the music is definitely less edgy.
Now Iāll have to do some research to find out which components are plugged into these two outlets lol (Itās a ratās nest back there.)
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Iāve mentioned elsewhere that my experience is that my PP12 works wonders with my digital equipment (Cary DMS-800PV, PS Audio DS1).
PPs donāt work with my power amps (Parasound JC1s), and have no discernible impact on my tube equipment (Cary SLP-05, Cary VT-500).
What the PP does for digital, however, is worth the expense!
My power amps are on an old, discontinued Exact Power unit, and my tube equipment is on an a modified Exact Power balanced isolation transformer.
Everything is fed from dedicated 20A service.
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Hey jhnhā¦
Iām thinking that your JC1 amps demand more instantaneous current
than you P12 can deliver and thus limiting your JC1ās ability to performā¦
May need to go to P15ā¦
Just my .0002
Best wishes
My DS DAC Mk2 sounds ābetterā with with un-regenerated power from my PP3. And itās not close.
Go figure.
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Iāve had larger PPs in the past. Methinks the issue is that the JC1s pull 1100 watts at idleā¦
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Hey jhnhā¦
Actually, the JC1 pulls 250 watts at idle in high biias and 1280 watts at full outā¦
You are right thinking the JC1 draws a lot at idleā¦yet depending on speaker
loading and sensitivity ā¦your JC1s need more current than the P12 can
supplyā¦again my .0002
Best wsihes
Ouch. I did not know they pull that much power at idle. My A23+ does not draw much power at idle, just a rush of power when powering up to get the amp warm right away. Have not tried plugging theA23+ directly into the wall yet. My CJ tube amps and M1200ās both like the P12.
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The Exact Power EP-15 displays watts. With no music playing, the two JC1s (cold, high bias) pull 1100 Watts. Once the amps are fully warmed up, they pull 975 Watts. The amps are driving parallel Maggieās ā a static 2.1 Ohm load (yeah, I know).
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Wow! The heat must be incredible.
They do raise the the temperature of my 15x30ā room about 2-4 degrees in the winter!
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My JC5 has a similar but tolerable effectā¦gotta luv that amp!!
Best wishes
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FWIW just switched over to a Puritan 1512.
My P12 lacked enough outlets, was too inefficient, created too much heat (already had to replace the component that sat above it) and the fan made a squeak that drove me crazy though quiet. I expected to lose on sound quality, but was ok for the above practical benefits.
The Puritan sounds much better. Amps are unrestrained and much more dynamic. Everything digital is super resolving. No fatigue. And much quieter background literally and figuratively
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Yes. The P20 didnāt sound as expected for me.
I use the SurgeX SX-1120-RT with great success. At 20 amps it powers my 1000w monoblockās, one for each.
This is a photo of the 15 amp version. The 20 amp version looks the same only has the 20 amp plugs.
Need more outlets and a sequencer? The SEQ is the same however has more outlets and a programmable sequencer.
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Interesting! What power cord are you running to the wall with your Puritan 1512?