Even at my age 
I don’t know what “Bacch4Mac…” is - could you describe it? That would be a big help. 
It’s an expensive rabbit hole, Hoku can explain. 
Aloha…challenge accepted, but where to start?
Bacch4Mac (B4M) sounded like just another expensive way to get closer to ‘live’ music in my living room. (Side note: My wife was estactic when I got rid of my Yamaha upright a few weeks ago - we are without any instruments currently and I can’t sing.) However, because members of this forum are well informed and have never once steered me wrong, I opted for B4M instead of new foundry stacks and am re-living alot of live music and experiencing it in a way I never thought possible on my system, or any system I would ever be able to afford/justify to my better half.
B4M is an amazing combination of software and hardware that removes anything in the way of the music along the signal path - and opens up the entire soundstage, naturally allows for performer locations, and allows for organic reverb (does that even make sense?) in such a way as to present music (esp live and orchestral) beyond the typical confines of even an excellent setup.
I was skeptical, but trusted forum members and ordered the system at the level of my budget (Audiophile, with ORC).
You know all those what "WHAT ON EARTH JUST HAPPENED THERE?” moments? I get them all the time now, there is no acclimatization, similar to live music.
Caveat: B4M is recording-dependent, but with my favorite music and recordings, it expanded the presentation capabilities of my system beyond what I had considered possible, and outperforms wildly more expensive setups even with my B-system speakers (sold more expensive ones to fund B4M acquisition).
More on B4M can be found on the forum… however, I must warn you, there is no escape from B4M - it simply cannot be ‘unheard’ once experienced.
Access the rabbit hole below:
all 3 of my emails bounced back as undeliverable
Hello Paul,
I created a new volume on my internal drive and installed macOS Tahoe 26.7 on it. This allowed me to open Maestro with Exclusive Mode for my USB DAC. However, I’ve now noticed that it keeps switching back to Shared System Audio.
Grtz Jessy (Jayzee 0710)
I’ll bet they all bounced because I gave you the wrong address! I am so sorry. My bad.
support@maestromusic.app is the correct address and not .net. Duh. Sometimes my fingers move to fast or it’s at the end of a long day and my brain turns to mush.
Please accept my apologies.
An interesting experience with Maestro today. Everything except local library and I can see Qobuz, favourites etc but nothing plays. I can see my dac showing. There appears to be no way for Maestro to connect to anything including the Mac it is running on. It also does not generate zip files so I cannot send these through to Paul.
have been this way since 2008
don’t know how you do all you do
Hi all, I asked this question on the Support on the app page, but didn’t hear back. I have followed this topic off and on, but man, what a community! Incredibly impressive those of you who have stuck with it. So here’s my question: is Maestro now able to use room-correction convolution filters? Roon can accommodate the fantastic filters I have generated from Focus Fidelity - they consist of several .WAV files nested in a Zip file. I know this has been a plan in Maestro, but can’t seem to find whether it’s working yet. I also use Roon’s settings to upsample by factors of 2 and to report any “clipping” caused by the convolution filters - are those in Maestro yet?
Just down loaded Maestro ver .323 last night. Seems to have resolved my DAC connectivity issues resulting in the error message “could not download audio from this computer”. Also songs start playing almost immediately after selecting them. Sounds fantastic! Thank you Paul for your fixes!
From what I know Paul has stated this is moving to local based code. His plan was to do it in cloud but too process intensive. So it’s in roadmap but not close. I want to say he was doing PEQ and I think it may support the filters in future. He will have to answer that
If I understand correctly (very likely not), that could be a potential problem. I’ve never been able to fully ascertain whether Roon fully “gets out of the way” and doesn’t run the music data through the computer’s CPU before it goes to the Airlens or DAC, but when it comes to filters, Roon DEFINITELY uses the CPU. It was my understanding that Maestro was going to somehow use the Cloud to apply the filter to the data and have it directly sent to the Airlens or DAC. Hopefully that will still be the case. I’ll stay tuned.
It needs compute. The cloud for maestro is just a db for your config. The idea of maestro is to pass it untouched. It will have to touch it to apply the filter.
But unlike roon there is not RAAT conversion etc. Paul will not get away from the premise of min touch. But filter means touch. Cloud or local no difference. In fact local means less latency and network issues
Hi,
I am just trying Maestro. It sounds great. Really Great. I am uprised since i cannot identify as I usually do what has improved. It is an overall sensation. I need to lesson few more days.
However some missing important points. Direct connection to the NAS and not the connection through the local MAC OS connection to the NAS.Because I need to refresh it allthe time otherwise the connection is not available.
Also, Being able to mixi local library and Qobuz library would be great. It is done in the recently played section … I would love to have it available also for the whole local library and Qobuz like Jplay and Roon (and not like Mconnect …)
OK, thanks Brian for an explanation I can understand! Either way, if you think my ears will be able to tell a difference, you’re smoking something still illegal in most states. The main reason I’ll switch to this is because I want to support PS Audio, and heck, maybe my ears will get better (doubtful at my age).
Hahahaha…not smoking, in fact I have not tried Maestro since its early on beginings. I gave up. I wanted to enjoy BACCH and waiting to see if either Paul or Edgar fixes that. I feel I will be waiting a very long time.
But, what i do want, is iOS version to try, as well as like you Filters. If I can do a convolution filter with an iOS version of Maestro, I can compare PMG with Maestro direct vs Bacch4mac. I feel that some albums that the recording does not benefit from Bacch, will sound really good with Maestro direct to PMG. I hope Paul can figure it out soon, but its probably not easy. Guessing 6 months from a really good working of the version I want. I can wait.
Yeah, I can be patient for sure. I just did something pretty amazing - at least for me: I used Gemini AI to help me develop some new room-correction filters and tweak a few other Roon settings. The amazing part is that once I fed details of my exact setup, room, and objectives into AI, it could custom-synthesize it into a best-case scenario for achieving my objectives - to mimic the sound setup of a typical mixing/mastering environment. I just played dumb (not hard for me) and let AI tell me what to do (I could always go back if I didn’t;t like it). But once it learned my preferences, it could communicate with me in a very customized way. It even recommended particular recordings to use for comparison with my previous filters. The results are incredible, even to my fair-to-middling ears and experience. So after following this topic, I’m really eager to compare Maestro to Roon. Either way, I’ve got a great system going.
Fun!
Hi Brian,
I’m using Maestro with BACCH, pointing it to system audio. It’s not getting the ‘bit perfect’ reading but it may as well be as it sounds great. Better than Roon on my system, which runs from the same Mac Mini. Main issue for me is streaming a playlist can stop - seemingly when it hits a song which Qobuz may not be allowing in Australia.
Like many, I am hanging out for the iOS version to control it from my iPhone rather than the screen sharing via my MacBook Pro.
Cheers,
Phil
How do you feed Bacch from Maesteo?