Just Pulled The Trigger on DSJ

Is the default sample rate setting for the bridge on the Jr “NativeX” and is there a way to change it?

The Bridge is just an input interface. It does not change the sample rate. The DS Sr and Jr both convert everything (all inputs treated the same) to high rate (20x I believe) DSD. The sample rates cannot be changed (except by Ted in firmware). NativeX was a feature of the PWD Mk. II and not the Bridge (either B1 or B2).

Dyn C1s…are FAR from sensitive; 85db if memory serves. So…the high attenuation, is the default?

Oh, wait; the 340i is an IA, yes? So…you’re just running the DSJ, as DAC??

I have a Directstream Junior and haven’t experienced any noise through my speakers at all, under any circumstance, source or volume level. It’s certainly not audible at the listening seat, nor as close as I can get my ear to the speaker. I run the DSJr at volume of 100, and without the attenuater.

Bridge II–>DSJr–>Bryston SP3–>Bryston 6BSST2–>Revel Ultima Studios

I do have good power, though .(Dedicated 30 amp circuit–>Power Plant P10–>Entire System)

As to heat, I’m not paranoid, but cautious. My power amp is in a stand with a perforated metal door and open back. It does get warm at times, but being Bryston I have a loooonnnngggg warranty. The DSJr is atop my stand with room below (raised on Golden Sound DH Cones and DH Squares) and completely open at the top. I can tell that it’s warm, but never hot or “warmer than usual”.

That is a set-up, with the DSJ as DAC (or streamer/DAC); but with a quality pre-amp in the signal-path.

Again…I am “worried”; because I bought the DSJ, to specifically run as streamer/DAC/Pre.

Amps I’m considering:

I’ll start…with my “tag-behind”, Adcom GFA-565SE. However…I’m looking, ultimately (unless this combos, just blows me away)…at either a Wyred4Sound ST-500 mkII, W4S mAMPS, or an NAD M22 v2.

Any thoughts, on best match; given this potential issue?

I have the version 1 W4S STI-500. Works well with the DSJr. Very quiet background.

I’m now using the 340i purely as a power amp precisely because the volume control of the PSA gear is so far superior.

With the attenuator set on low the noise issue is no longer a problem.

I also now have the DSJ sitting on 1 inch feet directly above the DMP and the temperature after several hours of continuous use is about 10 degrees cooler that way. My shelf space is very limited so side by side placement is not an option for me.

OK…so; back to the OP at hand.

Sh*t’s real now; order is on its way! And I still don’t know…what I’m going to do, for Media Serving; since I haven’t had to worry about it for years.

I need…the ability to play my own rips, TIDAL, and Internet Radio. I think ROON is out…because as great as it may be; I just don’t see, paying $120/year, or a $500 pop…for a “lifetime”.

So…what’s that leave? Last time I used an MS; it was JRiver. Is that still, “2nd best”? (and will do, all I need)?

Just a suggestion. Use JRiver as the Media Server. In conjunction with JRemote it works flawlessly (yes, there’s a learning curve).

You can use MControl for playing Tidal. MControl is better at playing Internet Radio too (comes built in with vTuner Internet Radio - recent addition that PSAudio enabled) but JRemote works if you enter the URL into a JRiver playlist. I have a playlist with the handful of internet radio stations I listen to.

I don’t see a problem having both apps on my phone and using one or the other. MControl will work with a JRiver library as well. JRemote is a much better control point but MControl does work.

BTW: isn’t the Aurender N100H $2,700? You can buy one heck of a Win 10 computer (If you don’t have one already) with multiple hard drives, for backing up, for 1/3 that money. JRiver is $50, JRemote is $10.00, mconnect is $6.00.

What about Aurender N100H? I am very happy with mine. It has everything you’d asked for. Also, at Axpona, Aurender was used in so many rooms that I’d lost count. That’s a great endorsement for their products.

Thanks. I’m leaning JRiver…because it’s really the only other thing I’m used to…and I already have the JRemote app on my iPad, from when I had it.

I had an N100H; they’re great. But I bought the DSJ, to try and be streamer/DAC/and decent pre-amp…all in one box (as opposed to my current Auralic Aries Mini/Mytek Brooklyn combo; as streamer/DAC).

Also, for the record; I have a 12-bay NAS…currently at about 21T (movies, music…about 5,000 DSD ISOs, lol). So…back-up isn’t an issue.

DsJ arrived on Friday…and I have logged a little bit of listening time. Here are some thoughts, and questions…

Keep in mind: the idea, is to ultimately run the DsJ with the Network Bridge. However…since I haven’t decided or set-up the media server yet; all impressions to this point, are with the Auralic Aries Mini (AAM) connected via USB.

First…the good: the DsJ, may be the most “perfect-sounding” piece of kit, I’ve had in my system; ever! Perhaps a better way to describe it, would be “perfectly accurate”. That is to say…at least with the AAM, feeding both a Wyred4Sound ST-500mkII and Adcom 565SE power-amp; it is (I am happy to report) dead-black quiet, and I have little doubt…outputting a very clean, and pristine signal.

Now, the “bad”; …see above, lol.

The sound is smooth, and clean; and accurate. All “good” things; but…I need a little “roundness”…a little “warmth”. A little “soul”. With the class-D W4S; just too much, clean-on-clean for my taste. I’m sad to say…because I have otherwise, found it to be a very nice example of A/B performance; the Adcom didn’t fare much better.

So…do I not like the DsJ? I wouldn’t say that at all; just need to find it, the right mate I think.

I was already thinking, ST-500 mkII or NAD M22 (v2), for this unit; but again…as good as the NAD is reviewed to be…at this point, I’m not quite sure, even A/B is going to get me where I need. I’m thinking class-A or Toobs.

Balanced inputs, are going to be a must; because I already find the attenuation to be “limiting” (let me expand: in this system…with my 86.5db PMC 25-23s…I’m having to hit “3 o’clock” [75 of the DsJs 100], to get ~88db at my listening position. Now…I think this unit, makes you re-think volume control. With a typical, “active gain-stage” pre-amp; I wouldn’t be comfortable…having to step that hard on the gas, to get ~88db. But I guess, maybe with the DsJ; we need to think “backwards”. That being, 100 is “desirable” (bit-perfect…even though I know, the DsJ is designed not to lose anything…certainly not by 75); and I’m sure…that if I maxed the unit out, the level would far exceed what is comfortable. So, maybe…in a way; I should take “comfort”…in the fact, that I can climb so close to 100…for ~88db. And know…that between 50 and 100, I can hit all desired levels. Just takes a little wrapping-your-head-around…and, the OP being; I don’t want to lose another 6db, by going SE…lol).

When I think class-A…I think Pass! But…budget doesn’t really allow, for the heavy case-work; so I’m looking First Watt. Since I need/want Balanced in; that means J2. Been wanting to try it ; reviews are insane. But…it seems a bit “quirky”. I know NP is a mad scientist; and specs don’t matter as much as sound. But that whole 25/13 (8/4) thing, throws me a bit (for example…I had an M2, that was glorious; but…couldn’t really push my speakers at the time [FB1i or OB1i, can’t remember] around, in a way I liked. That, 25/40…and like the F6, 25/50; make sense to me…lol.

Toobs; gotta say…this knock-out review, of the Rogue Stereo 100 http://www.10audio.com/rogue_stereo100.htm has me damn intrigued.

Thoughts?

You can get them after a good (and long) run-in.
As Ted said, DS & DSJr just need more time to heat up the output stage than other DACs. So the “run-in” will take more time.
For my DSJr, that’s about one week of endless pink noise and another week of normal use (connected to my TV system).

Well @flac2dac and @andolink, I pulled the trigger and just ordered the DS Jr. Not happy to hear that I have to wait 10 days for one to be hand-built :yum:

10 days? I waited almost 3 months for my BHK 300’s. No complaints about the end product though.

Have you heard the saying “good things come to those who wait”?

…and there is another…

“patience is a virtue”.

10 day wait is nothing to be unhappy about, I would have thought.

It’s gotta burn in… takes a week or two… be patient. Just a warning when you fire it up for the first time.

Regarding waiting… I waited 6.5 months for a car once… yes was worth it, had it for 13 years after receiving it. Somethings are worth waiting for. Short-term gratification is not always the best route to long-term contentment.

Peace
Bruce in Philly

From what I understand, the crux of his point is, he expects to order a PS Audio product and take delivery the same day, or shortly after. He’s not happy having to wait 10 days whilst they build him one. Nothing to do with burn in, unless we’re talking crossed purposes here.

Then he should have shopped around and found a dealer with stock, really not that difficult.

One freshly built comes with very latest firmware. A 10 Day wait is not excessive in my book.