Patience, and a little nudge now and then.
We know it is still on the works, but want to know if the double rate DSD is part of it. And I wonder if there is any other device capable of streaming double rate DSD using DoP via ethernet. :-?
Well yes there is: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20131230005622/en/AURALiC-Introduces-Industry’s-Wireless-Streaming-Solution-Supports#.UyJtXMG3NyU
We know it is still on the works, but want to know if the double rate DSD is part of it. And I wonder if there is any other device capable of streaming double rate DSD using DoP via ethernet. :-?
Well yes there is: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20131230005622/en/AURALiC-Introduces-Industry%E2%80%99s-Wireless-Streaming-Solution-Supports#.UyJtXMG3NyU
I have been following the news for the Lighning streaming since CES and I don't think it will be market ready before Q2.
It sounds very impressive.
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/auralic-aries-digital-analogue-converter-double-direct-stream-digital-over-wi-fi-18798/
Ahhhh, a sharp observer. No, that project is moving along at its typical slow pace. The PCB design is done. Bob has to make another inspection, then it goes to the board house, probably back, stuffed, tested and debugged in mid April. Then it has to be sent to the platform manufacturer to see if they can add the programming changes necessary for the Bridge to communicate with the DAC (all custom stuff). So we're a ways away still. But progress is being made.
Will Bridge II handle double rate DSD? Gigabit?
I am pretty sure the Bridge will not handle double DSD since it's equivalent to 352kHz 24 bits and the bridge is limited to 192kHz 24 bits. It's have to be through USB.
Ted said somewhere that the DS can handle raw double rate DSD over I2S, such as from the NPC. He also said USB might not be able to handle it and SPDIF is also questionable, although alrainbow said he was able to play double DSD over SPDIF with another DAC. I was really hoping that Bridge II would be able to handle it (understand that requires 352/24) as otherwise the theoretical capability of the DAC to handle it does not appear to be meaningful in my case. Of course, I do not have any double DSD material and have no idea if this limitation matters in the real world.
Even with the current Bridge single rate DSD should not be a problem using DOP as that uses a 176/24 file as a container.
I am pretty sure it does.
I think pure dsd is by I2s only.
I’m not positive but will find out SOOOOOOn!
I sure hope the DirectStream will be able to handle double DSD using the I2S input...
It does. I've tested it with the NuWave Phono Converter.
The bridge does do single rate DSD (via DoP), I've used both foobar2000 and JRiver to listen to DSD over the bridge.
The new bridge will also support single rate DSD via DoP. I don't know enough about it to guess whether it will do double rate DSD via DoP.
@Paul: careful now, DSD-128 really SHOULD BE a design consideration for the Bridge Mk.II. I2S can handle it and even DSD-256 should not be an issue for 100 Mbit Ethernet. Then again, there is no question of capability with Gigabit Ethernet that the Bridge Mk.II should also have.
Even if the audio performance benefits may be marginal those buzzwords are certainly significant for sales and marketing.
J.P.
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wingsounds13 said: Then again, there is no question of capability with Gigabit Ethernet that the Bridge Mk.II should also have. Even if the audio performance benefits may be marginal those buzzwords are certainly significant for sales and marketing.
I mentioned in another thread that Bridge II MUST (not should) have Gigabit Ethernet on-board for many technical reasons (e.g. single flow across all wired devices, JumboFrames, auto MDIX, etc). Many contemporary low power CPU's have double Gigabit Ethernet controllers built-in, so it should not be a problem.
I mentioned in another thread that Bridge II MUST (not should) have Gigabit Ethernet on-board for many technical reasons (e.g. single flow across all wired devices, JumboFrames, auto MDIX, etc). Many contemporary low power CPU's have double Gigabit Ethernet controllers built-in, so it should not be a problem.
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Ted said somewhere that the DS can handle raw double rate DSD over I2S, such as from the NPC. He also said USB might not be able to handle it and SPDIF is also questionable, although alrainbow said he was able to play double DSD over SPDIF with another DAC. I was really hoping that Bridge II would be able to handle it (understand that requires 352/24) as otherwise the theoretical capability of the DAC to handle it does not appear to be meaningful in my case. Of course, I do not have any double DSD material and have no idea if this limitation matters in the real world.
Well, there are some double rate DSD (DSD 128) downloads now available on sites like e-Onkyo Music in Japan and DSD File in Europe (operated by the Opus 3 Records team). And even a quad rate DSD (DSD 256) sample on a 1 bit audio site, also in Japan. So it will come up on some DSD releases.
Thanks bmoura. I assumed there must be some of this stuff out there with more to come. All the more reason Bridge II should be designed to handle at least double rate DSD IMHO. Even if SPDIF and/or USB can be made to work, that’s not really an option for a lot of people. Frankly, if the current prototype design of Bridge II doesn’t do that (and have gigabit ethernet), I think it should be redesigned. Since the DAC itself can handle double rate DSD, it would be a shame if the Direct Stream were hobbled by the limitations of Bridge II (the current Bridge is another matter, of course).
Wow hate to pile on, but personally I’d rather wait another 6 month for a new bridge that handles emerging formats. Doesn’t the current bridge handle single DSD already?
Also I don’t seem to be able to edit my posts. Other forums I’m on allow that for a certain amount of time.
When that happens to me I usually find that I’m not logged in.
JJ
Except now… :headscratch
JJ
The Edit thingy shows up on some threads but not others.
EDIT: now it’s working on my end!