Linn's view on DSD (beating a dead horse)


#1

http://forums.linn.co.uk/bb/showthread.php?tid=23096

There is even a comment inside related to PSA upcoming plans for DSD.


#2

ha ha Frode, talk about throwing gas on the fire, or perhaps that is DSD pyre

#3

ha ha Frode, talk about throwing gas on the fire, or perhaps that is DSD pyre

Yes, well, I have no personal opinions in particular related to this article except for that I am positive to DSD in principle. DSD from my Lumin sounds superior to hirez PCM.


#4
David said: talk about throwing gas on the fire, or perhaps that is DSD pyre

Well worth it, it remains an interesting topic.


#5
frode said: DSD from my Lumin sounds superior to hirez PCM.

The Man Who Knows No Difference may question your experience =))

#6

@alekz



I have never heard DSD except at audio shows (lots of them). However, I have no idea what I am listening to at audio shows - DAC, cables, Pre, amps, speakers, source material? Of course, I am listening to a system. Never had an A/B comparison DSD-PCM.



“He who knows not and knows not is a fool. Shun him.” (Attributed to: Omar Khayam, 13th century philosopher)


#7
birddogthecat said: I have never heard DSD except at audio shows

Neither have I :D

#8

Interesting link, BTW: http://www.audiostream.com/how-is-ted-coding-the-fpgaent/dsd-ready-dacs-short-list


#9
Interesting link, BTW: http://www.audiostream.com/how-is-ted-coding-the-fpgaent/dsd-ready-dacs-short-list
Wow, the Lumin has doubled in price since I bought it 10 months ago!

I guess they have to adjust to the dealer MSRP when selling directly.....

#10
Alekz said: The Man Who Knows No Difference may question your experience

We will have to ask when we get a chance to speak with him.

#11

He’s just said something again…


#12
frode said: the Lumin has doubled in price since I bought it 10 months ago!

Also in Europe?

#13
Alekz said: He's just said something again...

Once again, Alekz, ad hominem attacks are inappropriate. Take issue with the ideas expressed, but do not stoop to personal insults.

This one is also sad as it reveals you are not listening to what is being said, but rather taking cheap shots merely to be unpleasant. In fact, I have detailed my experiences finding many differences - ironically, most recently in the thread on SACD v. an A/D/A PCM loop. :-))

Please stop. Take a higher road.

#14

There were no insults. Since you questioned my ability/experience to hear the difference, it should be applied to everybody, right? Hence Frode’s experience can be questioned as well.


#15

@frode Could you point to where the comment about our plans are? I went through the forums but couldn’t find it.


#16

Paul, I found a PS Audio reference in Post #26 by “matthias”. This dates back to 28 May so I’m sure it was conjecture. I should also refer you to Post #32 wherein “MnM” disparages PS Audio. I take all of this with a grain of salt since Linn folks are well versed in discounting all other manufacturers.


#17
Alekz said: There were no insults.

Name calling of any kind is inappropriate/insulting. Accordingly, we respectfully refer to you as Alekz, not as anything else.

Please do not engage in this behavior any further.

Alekz said: Since you questioned my ability/experience to hear the difference, it should be applied to everybody, right? Hence Frode's experience can be questioned as well.

First, I have never questioned your ability or experience. Instead, I have noted many times that your perception is as valid as that of anyone else. I have also explicitly stated that no test result invalidates your individual perception and experiences. See, the ongoing thread on SACD v. an A/D/A loop.

Second, Frode does not deserve any negative treatment. If you are angry with me, do not take it out on him or anyone else. His perception and experience is as valid as yours and that of the rest of us.

Finally, please keep the discussion of perception v. objective testing in the ongoing thread where it belongs. Frode started this thread to bring Linn's view to the fore, not to serve as springboard for cheap shots.

Let us not muddy this thread any further. Please.

#18
@frode Could you point to where the comment about our plans are? I went through the forums but couldn't find it.

Sure, it is post#32 between MnM and matthias.
I cannot recall seeing their nic in this forum.



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#19

Frode started this thread to bring Linn's view to the fore


This is correct. I thought it would be of interest to 'us'
I found it by a coincidence since I am frequently browsing the Linn forums for views on the Lumin.
The Linn fan boys seems a little upset because of Lumin sometimes m/ >:)

#20

Ouch. Ok, thanks, I hadn’t read that far in. Their gapless criticism is certainly valid, not sure about the filters but, what the heck, they gotta say something bad.