Matrix X-SPDIF 2

Apologies, but no. ASIO is purely a Windows driver function. You’ll never have to deal with ASIO on macOS.

Edit: Should have said “ASIO is not a thing you’ll ever encounter on macOS”. I have no knowledge and therefore no opinion about the merits or otherwise of ASIO itself :slight_smile:

Thanks Dvorak for correction.

I was trying to determine why you kept inferring that because I find I prefer one over the other with the USB cable that I was implying it must be true for all. But of course you were just referring to an HDMI cable when you stated something to the effect of your salesperson said there was no difference in sound between the top, middle, and bottom cables. Sorry, I was just trying to point out that in my experience with the USB cable that I found that not to be the case.

And as someone pointed out on the image of the package you posted, they all use a similar construction design but they all use different materials. When I heard the difference between the two cables I noted that one was made with silver coated copper, and the more expensive one was made with silver, no copper. To me that was a proper explanation. It could mean one could expect similar results for the HDMI version. But I have not proven that to myself yet. I hope to.

The other thought I had is a good salesperson tries to determine any and all idiosyncrasies a customer may have and then uses that information to serve that customer in a way the customer will enjoy. Perhaps your salesperson read you as a “don’t even go there on the expensive cable product” type and as such tells you what he thinks you want to hear. I may be wrong but that is how I read you.
In my dealing with you from here on I promise to never ever discuss cables in any way shape or form under penalty of remorse.

The guy I deal with at the Cable Company believes he has a live one on the hook when he is talking to me and he has sold me more than a few $850 cables. The sad thing is, when I put them in place I enjoyed a noticeable sonic difference, each and every time. Now he wants to show me the really good stuff. Sigh.

I’ll assume the blame for all this and make personal adjustments so you and I can be pals.
Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa.

I’m sure the Platinum is better than my Silver Starlight - just as I’m sure the cables below mine are not as good. I did check out the WW SS first with the intention of trying the $100 UV next. Once I heard the SS I was good. Didn’t want to spend 350 but there was no way I was sending it back.

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My experience with Windows has been you choose ASIO first, and if it works, stop there. If it has issues of some sort then try WASAPI. And there again, if that works stop there.

Many believe one is superior to the other, if I had to be truthful I’d admit I don’t hear any difference between the two. (Yet)

Haha! Fair comment, though I intended no slight against ASIO or Windows. I’ll edit my earlier post.

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I accept your mea culpa, but your ‘reading’ of me and my WW dealer could not be more wrong. Here is the text of the March 11th email I sent him verbatim (including the missing-word typo in the last line and minus the preamble where I mention the multiple audio components I have bought from him over the years):


I am looking at upgrading the HDMI cable that runs between a Matrix X-SPDIF 2 digital-to-digital converter and my PS Audio DirectStream DAC’s I2S input. The HDMI cables I am considering include:

WireWorld Silver Starlight 7 (1.0m)

WireWorld Platinum Starlight 7 (1.0m)

I noticed you are a WireWorld dealer so I thought I would check in to say hello and ask what you think of these two cables. Also, what would they run me, and do you think the Platinum worth the extra cost over the Silver?


The dealer wrote me back and stated: “What number are you at. It’s too long to type.”


We spoke by phone shortly thereafter and he told me about the red-clad Starlight 7 HDMI, which he described as sonically indistinguishable from the Silver and Platinum Starlight 7 HDMI. For what now appear to me to be obvious reasons, he did not want to put that description into an email.

So you see, I was ready to buy either the Silver or the Platinum (I was not even aware of the red-clad Starlight 7 before he mentioned it on the phone). And the dealer said he would sell me the Silver or the Platinum if I wanted one. But as a great dealer, he didn’t want me to waste money on something that [in his mind] would provide no sonic benefit.

BTW, I now have the red-clad Starlight 7 HDMI in my system and it sounds great early in the burn-in process.

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You’re going to love it. I think Wireworld has got the HDMI cable thing down. Crazy how much attention we’re all putting in to using an I2S connection on a DAC. But man the difference between I2S and USB on the DS is ridiculous.

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I am pleased I was wrong, I am happy that you wrote what you wrote. Salute!

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Does anyone have a video How-to recomendation for a novice DIY person? I want to try making High End type HDMI cables; I have made balanced XLR cables. Also please recommend a quality cable and connectors.
(I will buy a Matrix X-SPDIF 2 at some point).
Thank you,
Chas

Ok it is really simple no soldering required.

What I specified was

  • two battery packs, all that is required is one but with tow you can have one charged and ready to go.
    -one charger that can charge one battery pack in about 3-4 hours using the 2 A setting
    -one package if 2.1 mm cables, this is what plugs into the Matrix.
    -one package of connector that fit the connector on the batter pack.

What you need to do is select one of the male 2.1 mm plug cables and one of the cables that has a connector that plus into the connector on the battery pack.

Once yo have those two cable strip about 1" of insulation off the two black and the two red wires.

Join the two red wires together by twisting the bared ends together, do the same with the two black wires. that is it.

Connect the two battery packs to the charger one at a time and let them charge.

Once charged disconnect from the charge and connect the jumper you just made.

On the Matrix when it is plugged into your PC USB port is is powered by the USB cable

When you plug the battery into the external power connector it will automatically switch to using the power from the battery.

If you let the battery run completely flat I expect the Matrix will switch beak to USB poser, I have not tried that .

I found the fully charged battery last approx six hours

Easy peesy

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This is normal these are two different interface Standards there is a third call Kernel Streaming that you may encounter

there is no pat answer as to which on to use , best to listen to both and decide which sounds better to you

magicknow

I have been playing Roon with Asio and Wasapi in Windows too. At the moment im using Wasapi with Matrix,but i dont know yet which is actually better. But when you change to Asio ,you also need to check Matrix control panel settings. Buffer size was 512 and safe box was ticked. I changed buffer to 8 and no safe mode. Those values make difference because of latency changes.
For some reason i cant enable both x spdif and Matrix (asio and wasapi) in Roon. I could do it with Ps audio drivers(asio and wasapi) when straight usb to dac.

So Bootzilla,did your WW starlight wipe one conway out of the system for good ? Or the opposite :grin:

Thank you for your help , @further !

Thank you as well, @magicknow !

Galen Carol Audio has the WW Starlight 7 (red clad) in 1M for $200 (free ship). Just got one

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What is their return policy?

Correction: Starlight 7

Not sure on return. I’d call GC 210-805-9927

Too soon to tell, as I only have @ 4 hours on the WW Starlight 7 HDMI (as opposed to 14 months on the OneConvey). Early indications are promising, however.