One of the users here compared his constellation with the BHK300 (when first released) and thought the BHK was better.
I had some schmuck in another forum complaining to me as to why I was posting about my system, being comprised of “cheap mid-fi” gear, and that he puts my gear in the same category as other cheap mid-fi gear such as Parasound, Rotel, McIntosh, Bryston and PS Audio. McIntosh, Bryston and PSA?! Really?!
And this was coming from some immature clown who thinks spending well over $100k just on a few cables alone is a good thing, on a system that only has a streamer, a DAC, a preamp, an amp and the speakers. Then again, he also has ZERO clue about subwoofers in a 2-channel system and how they are supposed to be used in said kind of system.
This guy also says he doesn’t trust a word I say about other systems because apparently my hearing is only regulated to the type of system I have. LOL So being in the hi-end hifi business for a few years, being in an orchestra for 7+ years, 6 of which 1st chair, and going to countless orchestra concerts and organ recitals over the years since a small kid, I don’t know what good (a.k.a. - REAL sound) is. shaking head and rolling eyes as I type this…
Anyway, I may have a “cheap mid-fi” system, but I know for a fact it certainly doesn’t sound like cheap mid-fi, especially after going to several of these Florida Audio Expo hifi shows these past few years.
This year alone, there were over 70 exhibitors there, and I would very comfortably put my system up against about 80% of them. Granted, a hotel room is never the best place to demo gear, but still. Considering the cost differences between their systems and my system, you’d still expect theirs to stomp my system into the ground (when looking at overall cost only that is). Honestly, there were only about 6 or 7 systems there that actually “wowed” me, leaving me thinking that I would love to have that sound in my room. But again, those systems cost 2 to 3 times the cost of my house! I’m sure a couple of those systems were probably over $1M.
Anywho… I’ll apologize in advance. I didn’t mean to rant or write a book here. LOL
Putting sound quality aside, as I’ve not heard any of those ultra high end products in my system, I’d say build quality and aesthetics are clearly in another league, which usually equates to higher costs.
As far as sound quality goes, only way to know for sure if those more expensive ultra high end products are in another league, is to audition them in your system.
Its funny that rep that PSAudio does have online. Funny in that Paul is very up front with is opinions on many subjects. And you know the internet… trolls etc… anyone that does not agree will find a forum to post their issues with anything little thing he says. There was a 10 page trashing of the MKII just from the advertisement they saw. Crazy.
I think Paul does wonders for the hobby and gets people thinking out of the box. Yes many of his videos are sales jobs, duh, he does have a business. I always dont agree but I dont go trashing things. No matter where or what I read. Well except when it comes to a certain site that loves to measure things…I trash that all day.
Either way I think that part of it gives a bad view to others who just dont know, and put their stuff in that category. It is what it is. I really dont care. I am not in this hobby to impress others.
The thing is, PS Audio puts all of their effort and money in the parts that matter and have no need to go to the extremes with multi-thousand dollar components and empty chassis’ that weigh 300 lbs and cost $8k to manufacture to get to the sound they want. They invest and charge the right amount for where they want their products to perform, which is typically much higher than their price point.
Just like Magnepan. Sure, they may use inexpensive parts in their crossovers, but if those parts really made the speakers sound horrible, Magnepan wouldn’t have the success and following that they do. The meat and potatoes is in the design of the drivers and design of the crossovers themselves, which is precisely why they perform much higher than their price point.
Heck, Magnepan has gotta be doing something right since they’ve been in business for 47 years, same as PS Audio.
I’m certainly not out to impress. I couldn’t care less about that.
I think a lot of people are in this hobby only to show off their “status symbols”.
If you count % volume of air in that chassis, it’s probably more than 50% air
Cost doesn’t always equal better sound, but I think it’s a little ridiculous to think that some of the ultra expensive gear out there doesn’t have some sonic advantages over lesser priced gear.
I don’t know what your definition of empty is, but my definition of empty means empty, as in NOTHING in it. Hence why I said an “empty chassis”. IOW, the manufacturing cost and weight of the EMPTY chassis alone.
I never said that either, or even hinted at it for that matter.
Misunderstood your empty comment, sorry.
My second comment wasn’t directed at you.
Just making a generalized comment that you usually get what you pay for in most instances.
I would think when it comes to audio, cramming everything tightly together has some disadvantages.
No worries. I don’t always find the right wording when explaining myself. LOL
Don’t kid yourself, most of the very high priced equipment does have a better build quality than less expensive equipment.
This is a weird thread.
Leagues are weird.
Yep this thread is not in the same league as any other thread
Best wishes
True. But at the moment it’s kinda back on the original OP track, kinda. Lots of twists and turns along the way
Calling Rob W calling Rob W where are ya at nowadays…got your footers installed yet…
speakers lifted up yet…
Waiting on you know who…
Best wishes
Who said it didn’t?
Doesn’t mean that that extra build quality is needed in any way, shape or form for the item to do its job properly.