PS Audio Music Server In The Pipeline?

I use a streamer first and foremost for optimal sound quality and ease of use. Direct accessibility from pc and tablets (UPnP), Roon-, Qobuz- and Tidal-ready, minimserver for library management, user-friendly (incremental) backup facilities and the ability to format / restore to factory settings in case of emergency is enough.

To me there is absolutely no reason to bother with partition management on the 1T audio grade ssd in the Melco.

Thanks for this. Very helpful.

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John Darko just checked and 76% of his respondents have less than 1TB of local music.

Looking forward to try the server when it’s available in Norway :slight_smile:

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Any updated eta on when it will be released?

Interested too when is it going to be released…seems delayed for quite awahile

I noticed PS published info for the Octave player on their website

Initial thoughts?

I’m curious. I wonder if it will work with Roon? Pricing? Will it eliminate the Matrix Spdif thread? Lol

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Its an alternative to Roon, is my understanding.

There will be no interplay between the two.

PSA is swinging for the fences with this endeavor.

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Sure, 76% of Darko’s respondents have less than 1TB of music. But, is that the exact same audience that would likely buy an Octave setup? Not likely. I would guess that the type of people that would buy an Octave setup are the type of people that would be more likely to have large local libraries.

A 4TB spinner would be a better choice than a 1TB SSD. In fact, I would go so far as to say that offering only a 1TB SSD option is a really bad idea…

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Not sure if that’s a good idea. I was just looking at Innuos and even they can run as a Roon endpoint or core. Not sure how well it integrates but at least it’s an option.

I agree. The DSf files take up a lot more space than Flac. Optional storage upgrades a must IMO.

As this topic has been previously extensively discussed we know no final decision as to internal storage has been made, there may be some choices offered to consumers, and the unit will address both external USB directly attached drives as well as pull music off of a NAS.

From the website:

“The player also features Ethernet, WiFi, a bit-perfect ripper, and a 1tB solid-state storage drive, all housed in a beautiful PerfectWave chassis.”

FYI.

[Source: Octave Music Player | PS Audio]

Yes, good info. The webpage continues:

“On its rear panel, find a nice helping of isolated USB 3.0 inputs allowing users to connect as much external hard drive storage as they need, as well as a dedicated USB 3.0 backup port providing automatic backup services through your connected external storage.”

…and people here are just expressing opinions…

Yes, and I am just offering reality and providing information. :slight_smile:

Auralic have this setup as their G2. Interestingly they say sonically it’s still better to use an external nas than embed an internal ssd or hd. They say an internal hd is poor sonically due to vibrations setup by the spinning platter.

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I recently ordered an Aurender A10 Network player with a 4TB spinning drive. I’ll try it both ways, with music on the drive, and NAS. With Aurender, the spinning drive loads the music on an SSD cache.

Thanks for offering your thoughts on the NAS.

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I use an Innuos device and use Roon. I also have just over 1TB of stored music. I chose 4TB as the storage option. My unit Zen Mk3 cost £2,000 (add 30% for $). A dcS Bridge costs about £4,000 and is considered pretty state of the art and is Roon Ready. I also have an 8TB SSD QNAP that cost £1,500 that is a perfect partner for dCS Bridge, if I had one. The Octave server will be about £5,000 or £6,000. So, never mind your brand preferences, the Octave will be coming in at a price point at which potential customers are probably not expecting any significant limitations of storage or functionality, and Roon is pretty standard these days. It’s not like it costs much, in fact I think the software is free to manufacturers, it’s the development time and processing power needed. Even my Bluesound has it, and those units start at $500.

Innuos offer Roon, but you don’t have to use it. The will imminently offer their own uPnP streaming system. They further addressed the SATA vibration issue from Mk2 to Mk3 by doubling the RAM to 8gb so the disc is not spinning during playback. There is also mechanical isolation. That makes the SATA version a lot cheaper than the SSD version and is why I bought it. Innuos also appreciated the popularity of usb in particular with DSD users and designed a very good usb reclocker for their $10k Statement unit, which they then decided to sell as a separate unit, called the Phoenix reclocker. I also used Auralic for a long time and for them the software was the best part.

All I’m trying to illustrate is that, given how far audio servers and streamers have come in the last 15 years, how so many problems have been solved and many companies have excellent software, there really is no mystery as to the feature list and options that Octave could or should have, depending on its price point. Servers and streamers are now old hat, with a wide range of products ranging from $500 to almost $50,000 (does anyone here have the Taiko SGM Extreme?).

There are some people who will buy it just because of the badge on the front, but servers and streamers really are a lot to do with ticking boxes with regard to functionality and features. It’s not like people go to an audio dealer and compare different streamers like they do speakers or amplifiers.

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Steven, I had the opportunity to audition and play around with Bluesound Vault 2i server, ripper. It’s a server, ripper, streamer, pre amp, worth BluOS and excellent compatibility with any smart device and computer system, comes for EUR 1200 and has 2 TB storage.

Maybe a huge group of high enders might pull up their nose for such “mainstream” system.

But the sound systems connected were:

  • NAD C658 with C 268 and ATC SM19 speakers
  • NAD M33 with Audiovector R6 Arreté speakers
    Both systems with Room Correction not even configured sounded very good with the Blue Sound / BluOS system. These were no cheap systems at all.

Looking at the cost/SQ ratio, and Knowing that BluOS comes from the Slim Devices/Logitech Media Service/NAD group with a long history and probably the original idea of high quality multi room streaming with a huge user group and raving reviews, helps putting the complete Octave US$ 6500 / 1 TB discussion to bed for me.

MQA seems to become the new Master / high res standard to which many audiophile brands including the brand new EUR 16000 Luxman reference D-10X SACD DAC.

Hans Beekhuyzen ranks MQA quality above “lossless” DSD an PCM format. I trust he knows a thing or two about digital playback as he is one of the very early adaptors of such systems.