Streaming SQ?

You guysšŸ˜† I got rid of 1000+ vinyls and I’m the 2nd happiest person in the house. No regrets!

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I get five or six new ones each week. I have hundreds I have yet to open.
Issues, I have issues.

  1. Streaming is so easy.
  2. Roon Radio.
  3. Relaxing medication.

But when I do play vinyl it’s all obvious why we deal with it. It sounds nice.

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the thing that slows me down is the cleaning… I have one of those Degritter units, and it works great, but I might go a few weeks between cleaning sessions.

90% of the time I use Roon. But if I want a ā€œseriousā€ listening session, and it’s a record I haven’t cleaned, I’ll probably need to refill the tank with new distilled water/cleaner and I think, ah screw it I’ll just put in a CD.

I have a lovely old vintage German turntable with a classic tonearm/cartridge combo. Super cool, but it’s not to the level where it’s gonna sound ā€œbetterā€ than my CD player. It’s the tea-ceremony aspect of it. The ritual. The warm fuzzies. It’s the '60s, baby.

ā€œLet’s put on a record,ā€ my girlfriend might say. Hopefully whatever album she picks has already been through the ridiculously expensive cleaning device!

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I should send you a stack of my duplicates, as I too have issues.

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Cough cough. Duplicates? Did someone say duplicates…? :face_with_peeking_eye: Although you’ve already been very nice to me :+1:, but if no one else wants them… :grinning:

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When I discover a particularly good album I usually buy three or four copies. One or two for backup, and one or two to gift friends. I have a really extensive website that I look at when music shopping. It is up to date for CDs, but sadly lacking for my vinyl collection. So I end up with dupes.

One of my newest discoveries on vinyl is selling from the record company for $11 a pop. I bought six copies. I hope I don’t get tired of it.

@terzinator I have a Degritter. I don’t change the water more than once a month. I recently learned it came with a manual. And in the manual they recommend cleaning it with white vinegar every three or four records. I have never done that. I suppose I should.

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Yeah all my stuff is in discogs (I don’t sell; it’s only for the database), so I look at that when I’m out shopping. I haven’t bought records in a while. No room in the shelves. CDs tho. Love scouring the used bins.

yah, i’ve seen this legendary manual

says change water after a couple of weeks (I also go a month)

and the vinegar clean is after 200 cleaning cycles!

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200 seems more reasonable. I wash my records after playing them. Always the 15:30 cycle. I love my DeGritter. The key is to have it in another room with a tight sealing door so you can clean anytime and not hear it.

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The problem with dupes is storage space. My data base is almost up to date, I’m zeroing in on the last 500 or so titles. I’ve more duplicates than I realized. Many are rather obscure so gifting is tricky as it is a matter of aligning dupes with others tastes. For example the following Peter Brotzmann and Mars Williams single sided LP:


Ultraman Versus Alien Metron, Peter Brotzmann Tentet, Mars Williams.
A friend loves the album, but has no turntable. Ultimately the extra copy found a home in Madison.

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Lets have a private chat about this. I would love an excuse to come and finally meet you!!!

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This seems to be a great trick. It cancels noise and causes less influence on the crystal. Music is less cropt.


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Not sure what is what; or what we are looking at in your pictures.

Would you mind elaborating?

Cheers.

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Hi Scotte1, of course

When people talk about jitter. I never really understood it. I’m not sure if this was meant, but I think that we should think in datawords and not in bits. In my system the sound becomes darker when I put real high grade power supplies on all my network equipment. The better the power supplies the darker the sound became. I think that due to the power supplies the signal became a lot better, but noise that was not related to the power section should be canceled as well. The above thing with the ferrite cores (on the TX and RX pair of the ethernet cable) was not my own idea, but it seems to work really great.

Think about 8 glasses of water which stand for a byte. When there’s water in the glas it means 1. When the glass is empty this means 0. But what about when we have half filled glasses. These half glasses still fulfill the digital value ( so it’s bit perfect), but when you convert them to analog you will hear a different sound in comparison to the conversion of complete filled glasses. The higher the value in the byte the more effect it will have on the sound. Because the digital value of the byte will stand for the analog voltage. So when the crystal can switch on its own terms not troubled by noise it will capture the complete data word. See it like this (picture) When the datawords are converted with a better phase than the music will sound less cropt.

When the lines are less steep it means there’s less high frequency (it’s crop into a smaller frequency range). It’s only a theory, but the sound is much better :slight_smile:

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Hi Wijnand,

Where in the network circuit did you place this addition?
What cable and ferrites did you use for this?

I built a filter based on the article below.

Das Drosselkabel – Minimierung der Gleichtaktstƶrungen auf dem letzten Meter – The Sound of Ethernet (ethernet-sound.com)

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O.K. So, bring me full circle. What is the purpose and connection to this?:

Thanks.

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Its purpose is to cancel the noise of the signal wave. It actually is a smoother. Spikes on the wave are smoothed.

It’s position is the last ethernet connection before it enters your DAC.

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Yes indeed :-). That’s where I started with as well. It really had a bigger influence than I thought it would have.

The cable we have tried in 3 different systems. 3 times the jackpot :slight_smile:

I have used CAT5e SFTP. I know FTP should work less than UTP, but in a comparison the FTP sounded better. And the effect was there. I have used 40mm metal powder cores instead of ferrite. They can be used in a slightly wider frequency range

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Gotcha!

You may want to post another picture showing the leads, then.

Thanks.

I am thinking about donuts for breakfast before digesting thisšŸ¤”

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A picture with the leads. The netgear is the box with the ā€˜ferrite’ cores

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