A little background on the PMG Sig DAC

Hello forum friends! My name is Doug Goldberg, and I was a member of the design team behind the PS Audio PMG Signature DAC. I thought I’d stop by to provide some context on the design philosophy and development process for this product.

The journey began nearly two years ago when Paul reached out to brainstorm ideas for the next generation of DACs. His guiding principle was clear: preserve the core design ethos of converting all incoming signals to high-rate DSD before analog conversion, while dramatically improving both measured and sonic performance over the legacy product. In short—replace an industry icon and make it significantly better at the same price. No pressure.

What followed was a complete ground-up reengineering of the DirectStream platform. There are no carryover components, firmware, or architectural shortcuts. Every aspect was reconsidered with a focus on achieving an exceptionally low noise floor and very high spurious-free dynamic range (SFDR), enabling the system to reproduce digital signals with extraordinary precision.

Over the course of roughly 18 months, we designed, built, and tested numerous prototypes, refining the architecture until we were fully satisfied with both the electrical performance and the musical results. As always, Paul had the final say on voicing, ensuring the end product met his sonic vision.

I can’t say enough about the PS Audio engineering team—especially Bob Stadther, who carried much of the load on detailed circuit design and PCB layout. The attention to detail is remarkable, particularly in minimizing jitter, crosstalk, and other second-order effects that can subtly but meaningfully affect performance. The result is a true tour de force in mixed-signal design. Even the power supply transformer would be at home in many high-end power amplifiers.

It’s honestly remarkable that we were able to achieve this level of performance without significantly increasing the price.

Here are a few examples that highlight the exceptional electrical performance of the PMG Signature DAC:





Our team is very proud of what we achieved. Exceptionally low noise floor, high spurious free dynamic range and incredible ability to resolve low level detail. I hope you are able to enjoy and take advantage of the effort that was put into this product.


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Thanks for this post!

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Thanks and welcome!

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Thank you Sir :folded_hands:

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Quite the accomplishment sir.

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Not exactly sure what the graphs represent, but I do know that I am definitely enjoying the results of all the hard work and remarkable engineering that when into this product. When listening to this DAC I get totally involved in the music and forget about the hardware. Its like that old Calgon commercial - PMG DAC, take me away! I am soaking in the luxurious sounds. Thanks PSAudio team.

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**I really enjoyed the MK II and especially the software upgrades which always kicked up the performance a notch or two but I had to try the PMG DAC and I was surprised how much better it is. The synergy between the PMG DAC and the preamp is something you have to hear. I would be very surprised if these components don’t get rave reviews by professional reviewers. Like the MK II the PMG did take some time to break in.

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Great to hear the background information on how PMG512 was developed. Well, I ordered a PMG SACD transport before this thread because it is a “limited edition”.:laughing: If I read this post first I may just order the DAC instead.

The plan is to enjoy one new piece at a time, and I just got the notification it will arrive on Friday.:man_dancing: Well, I also have a set of interconnects that will arrive on next Monday so it is in conflict of what I just said. But it is used so it is not new. :grin:

PMG512 is the next of course. But I am sad because I am near the end of digging rabbit holes. After PMG512 I am done, done, DONE!

I will take more time before I get the DAC to let PSA kill all the little bugs first, and that should give me plenty of time to enjoy the PMG SACD transport first.

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amazing detail and delicacy and amazing drums and amazing soundsraging etc. etc….. can’t say enough good things about the musical presentation of the PMG DAC - superlatives abound when listening

mahalo for the background info as well

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Bit difficult for me to totally identify the transformation in my listening experience as I moved to the PMG 512 DAC from a Chord DAVE / MScaler combination while moving further up the Gryphon family from the Diablo 120 to the 333. What I do know is that I am listening to music in a way I have not done before. Albums listened to 100s of times before are now exposing new nuances and details Hours pass with yet more tracks to load up and rediscover. Notes are not just perfectly formed it feels but have real weight and 3D presence. The metal instruments feel like they come straight from a Japanese sword master with the heft and zing to the strikes on metal and bass with the new DAC and Amp - the control and texture is deeper and wider. Most noticeably for me though on raw album by album comparison is the impact on native DSD recordings like the Queen & Depeche Mode catalogues - front row at a rowdy live concert is what it is now. Thank you Paul and team

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Folks, thank you for the kind words. It really means a lot to our team to hear the feedback. It certainly makes the long hours and tedious work of birthing a new product worth it. It may be one of PS Audios most ambitious design efforts to date.

I should provide a little more context around the data. The first chart is a sweep of harmonic distortion vs frequency. We were able to achieve a nice flat low level of THD. Its not going to be as good as chip-DAC buts its very, very good. The next two charts capture the DAC reproducing a very low level signal. One of the major design criteria was the ability to accurately reproduce a full range of signals across a 24 bit digital word. This drove the need for a very low level noise floor and a digital processing pathway that has the required dynamic range. As you can see from the plots, the DAC is able reproduce a sinewave input at -143dBFs or a full 24 bits down from full range. The last two charts are frequency and time domain plots of a signal input at -90dBFs (15 bits). The sine wave is reproduced flawlessly with almost 50dB of range left to the noise floor. That was not easy to achieve with a PDM (one bit) data stream. In any event please know a lot of effort went into this product to insure every nuance is accurately reproduced.

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I am amazed on the sound quality improvement from the MKII to this DAC. I even had the APS transformers and it was easy to notice. Thanks for the effort, this DAC is amazing.

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I am loving what the PMG pre is doing over the BHK in my system and so close to ordering the PMG Dac but this time around I want a plug and play upgrade without issues. I was a beta tester MK2 owner and really looking forward to a PMG 512 with out issue’s. Sign me up!

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You and me had to send MK2 back to the mothership, we do not want to experience that again for sure. Enjoy your new gear, and wait for the PMG512 when it is problem free.

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I remember that so well Donald and you are a good friend. The reason why I purchased the PMG Pre is a comment you made on how you realized how noisy the BHK Pre was compared to the Grimm Pre section is. I always respect your opinion. The PMG Preamp is an amazing upgrade! Looking forward to the PMG Dac.

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Thanks for the kind comment, I am going to have a drink now. Have a great weekend!

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