Ya just plug in the thing and it tells you if you should like it or not? Ummm…is that awesome for you!?
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glimmie…
It is awesome and amazing that you think clipped ac sine waves
have no effect on a system’s performance…
So clipped ac sine waves for you then…
Best wishes
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Many cheers for good espresso!
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Yep nice n’ airy!!!
The best part is you can have a regenerator sent to you, plug it in, plug your gear into it and you have a month to decide if you like it or not.
If you dont like it you can send it back for a refund. I dont see a down side to that scenario.
And you dont have to measure a thing. Just listen and smile. If you can’t tell any difference then your ears are saving you some money.
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Right on Baldy…you said like it is!!!
Best wishes
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I guarantee I dont have the best ears in the hobby but I do have 2x P12 and 2x P20. And believe me if they weren’t worth the ante they would have gone back where they came from.
In the end (like most things in life) it is simple.
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Looney Tunes n’ all you again are spot on Baldy…
Best wishes
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It’s all a matter of personal preference. If you haven’t tried a Power Plant you can’t really understand the impact. Numbers while handy, don’t tell the story.
Describe mathematically g-force for a 911 Turbo from a standing start to 180 MPH. Do the numbers describe how it actually feels to you?
Describe the color blue to someone color blind using spectral analysis. Unfortunately they are still not going to be able to understand what blue looks like.
Power Plants are the same way. The numbers do not describe what we are hearing. Psychoacoustics is real.
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The impact of a Power Plant is difficult to explain as it is not, in my experience, all that similar to other equipment improvements.
The equipment sounds the same after introduction of a Power Plant but better; the same but ever-so-much-more-so.
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This guy really insults audiophiles. Says we are foolish, we make things up in our heads, etc. BS, He can have all the measurements he wants, in the end, is the impact of the design being an amp, preamp, or cables. Says in A/B we could not hear the difference well bring him to my house and i"ll be glad to take him up on his belief. Now if he said some things are way overpriced, and not much inside of the overbuild cabinets at $$$$$ is charged that is one thing, but to say if things spec the same they will sound the same, well that is like saying all preamps would sound the same, all amps would and we all know that is not true from real hands-on experience. Of course, he feeds those who think our hobby is BS and we are being lied to and ripped off. Well, that may be the case at times, but to paint the broad brush on review after reviews is another thing. He is like the guy at GR research who says unless you hear his speakers at his place no one could give him a fair review and the guy from New Record Day jumps on that bandwagon, they are so pure and above reproach, but other reviewers are no good.
I am sure there are some, in fact, I also wondered how a review owns $100,000 turntable, $50,000 amps, those reviewers must make a good living reviewing, and if they get to keep the gear then sell it for $$$$$, well that is very unethical and they need to be called out as bad cops should be. But all cops are not bad, same for anyone in a certain field. There are folks who take advantage of their positions in reviewing I am sure, but that is the wink, wink game and editors know it should stop it…
Your ears tell you the truth, not your mind, if you learn to have a good ear you will know when something is right, and having said that how many good reviews for the PS Audio Power Plants vs. negative reviews, I guess to this guy those postive reviewers are full of it.
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My argument purposely didn’t get sucked into glimmie’s defense of Amir. He not interested in hearing any audio gear just in measuring it. So good riddance because It’s certainly a form of trolling at work here.
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Not sure other if they have seen this blog as it just came out.
At least others get it. He does call PP overkill. But so is just about all we do. That’s what we want.
“Let’s be honest. The PS Audio regenerators are absolute overkill. They don’t just eliminate noise and sags, they prevent the noise from ever being created in the AC before it even has to be cleaned up. They are tremendously excessive, and well performing units and that’s why they are so expensive.”
Advantage PSA.
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I am comfortable with tremendously excessive; it is how I roll.
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Going back and reading some older reviews of the P10 (the model I have) and enjoying the real reviews from Audio people.
If you read the comments on the “review” hint- it’s not a review, you see many of the comments are “snake oil” or saying it should be illegal, things like that.
The site is geared towards people that can’t afford expensive equipment and want to feel good about the modest gear they own by feeling superior to fools who buy higher end gear.
Plus the “reviewer” sells a line of inexpensive Chinese import gear, so that’s his agenda.
I can’t be sure it’s him but I’ve seen someone by that name making sort of nasty dismissive comments on A’gon.
I refer to the phenomenon as “idiot with an analyzer.”
What does he sell? Website?
Amir Majidimehr was the VP of the digital media group at Microsoft from 1997 to 2007.
He currently owns a system integration company, Madrona Digital, that does security, audio/video, lighting, networking, etc. for mid to high-end homes and commercial buildings (no retail sales).
You may find this article interesting. It appears a restructuring at Microsoft left him without a meaningful job. Read what you want into that.
Hi Paul,
Just came from the ASR forum on this discussion.
It seems after a long discussion the dust has settled.
One key thing that was cause for a long debate was the high output impedance not getting even near the spec-ed 0.008 ohm.
In the end it was discovered that one output ‘zone D’ was very different from the rest.
This explained the measured reduced max output power for a connected amplifier.
Suggestion:
The increased output impedance of zone D was not documented in the P12 manual.
Maybe it should be added?