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He claimed that a power conditioner improved his picture. You said “In this case any perceived image improvements are surely expectation bias.”. I assumed that since he was talking about his picture being helped by a power conditioner that you were saying that a power conditioner can’t make a difference.
OK, I still maintain the power conditioner cannot do that. But the viewing angle certainly could.
See I am putting thought into this knowing it can’t be an electrical issue, what then could cause what some are seeing? And I think a viewing angle change could be the culprit.
I swapped out a cheap Best Buy HDMI cable to my flat screen, with an extra stock PSA HDMI cable I had, and it was immediately obvious that the picture quality had improved. If measurements can’t detect any difference, then the test equipment is inferior to the capabilities of the human eye.
You don’t think we can tell the difference that a viewing angle makes? That we don’t move our heads around trying to see what changed and why, …? At times the changes aren’t that subtle, they are obvious. At other times changes can be subtle, I don’t pay attention to those changes.
And did you return to the exact same viewing position? I mean literally tape an X on the floor. And did you run the same video sequence for both cables?
The viewing position is my couch, and I was sitting on the same cushion.
Well then I would have to see your system and an example. I still maintain there is nothing an HDMI cable can do to make these image improvements. HDMI cable problems are quite distinct and well documented.
The biggest issue I have with ASR is that most users on there believe that SINAD > all else. This is most likely because Amir feels that way. There are countless charts devoted to ranking devices based entirely on their measured SINAD… so you know I speak the truth. That’s just incredibly close-minded and bloody silly, IMO and very un-audiophile. I have poorly measured (Ayre Codex & PS Audio DS DAC) to excellent measured (Oppo 205) units according to Amir. Not to mention a Topping D90SE that I bought and returned because it sounded so thin and flat (soundstage) compared to my Codex PC setup. I can’t listen to spinning discs anymore from the 205. It doesn’t sound anywhere near as good as either DAC. It is bloated, boomy, grainy highs and a very flat soundstage. It sounds the opposite of hi-fi in comparison. So clearly SINAD has absolutely zero to do with SQ (ie. fidelity). Which makes the whole premise of ASR and it’s preaching of SINAD>everything else, completely flawed.
That said, I do read and enjoy reading some of Amir’s reviews. His recommendation of the MA Silver 100s was part of the reason I picked them as my Atmos speakers.
Do you think some manufacturers use measurements just to make sure they’re not ‘way off’ and then tweak for the best sound quality possible? Even if it means lowering the ‘SINAD’? Ayre has admitted to this practice on their YouTube channel. I believe many others do as well. So yeah, SINAD is way, way overrated and it’s a shame that many are being trained to use only that to judge their purchases.
Your belief does not dictate an other’s experience.
Again, I am going to ask you to provide a link to the well documented problems associated with HDMI cables. As your most familiar with the source(s) you should have no trouble sharing them with the community at large.
Me too. I went with Massey Hall.
Come on, you can easily search this.
I went with Muggsy Spanier! A sure way to get a Friday feeling. Measures high on the Chicago Style meter.
Missionaries travel to all sorts of places, aiming to provide help to those who need it while also spreading the word of their “religion”. At first glance, it seems like they’re doing a good deed, right?
However, to me at least, missionaries seem to also carry the charge of cultural imperialism. These missionaries impose their ideas on cultures who Did Not Ask for it while actually worsening their lives instead of improving them.
Murder Most Foul is about as cheerful as this thread.
So can you as you are intimately familiar with it and know precisely which contain the content you refer to. Similar to the CBC study, eh?
I did not learn this stuff online. It’s my job to know this stuff. My doing a search would be no different than you. And you will find both camps as well. I’m sure there are sights where many say they see differences.
I could refer you to IEEE, SMPTE, EIA documents but they don’t outright say HDMI cables don’t make subtle image improvements. You need the engineering background to interpret that from the data.
Then you will have no problem in sharing those that underscore your point of view. After all you made the claim, I’m asking that you back it up.
Don’t believe your lying eyes!
I work in a science-based field as well. I generally find it difficult to ingest others interpretation of scientific data on face-value especially if I am approaching the subject with my own bias. That’s not to say that I can’t or won’t be swayed. But in order for me to build trust with those attempting to alter my opinion, I find it imperative that I review their findings in detail.