Compatible I2S source devices

edorr said So I had problems on one of my channels on the I2S bridge (static noise - no sound) in my a/v streamer. Problem appeared out of nowhere - channel worked fine before. Troubleshooting lead to diagnosis of defective channel on the bridge itself. Swapped out card and problem persisted.

Some more troubleshouting then revealed the problem was actually with the HDMI cable (nordost). I’ll be damned… Now I’m curious if this is a defective cable or a cable spec issue, like some folks are experiencing with USB cables.

Anyone used HDMI cables that did not work with an I2S source on the DS I2S input?

edorr said So I had problems on one of my channels on the I2S bridge (static noise - no sound) in my a/v
streamer. Problem appeared out of nowhere - channel worked fine before. Troubleshooting lead to diagnosis of defective channel on the bridge itself. Swapped out card and problem persisted.L

Some more troubleshouting then revealed the problem was actually with the HDMI cable (nordost). I’ll be damned… Now I’m curious if this is a defective cable or a cable spec issue, like some folks are experiencing with USB cables.

Anyone used HDMI cables that did not work with an I2S source on the DS I2S input?

What cable and what source?

Nordost Silver Screen HDMI cable. Source is the Pink Faun I2S bridge (Multi Channel).

Musica Pristina has a Roon Ready (newly certified) player with I2S that would mate with PS Audio (via an HDMI cable).

Hi, Kevin

It is unlikely the I2S output will work with a PS Audio product; PS Audio’s utilization is proprietary.

Thank you, Kevin – I had not heard of this company. As a Latin teacher I have to love the name! BTW, the link should be musicapristina.com (with an ‘a’ on musica).

The Musica Pristina A Cappella II digital music player does use an HDMI cable for its LVDS I²S output, and claims compatibility with several high ebd DACs, so it is possible that it is compatible with the PS Audio DACs with this input. It did take some careful reading and some interpretation of their product web page to glean this. Ultimately their statement in the description is to contact them to determine compatibility with your DAC. It would be interesting to find out if their I²S over HDMI is compatible with PS Audio’s implementation.

J.P.

magister said Thank you, Kevin -- I had not heard of this company. As a Latin teacher I have to love the name! BTW, the link should be musicapristina.com (with an 'a' on musica).
Well, that explains your name and maybe why I like your posts. My dad was a Latin teacher, as well.

http://musicapristina.com/shop/a-cappella-ii

It looks interesting, but they are using computer parts (not to my liking).

It does say that still if they have a DAC in their portfolio they are comforming to some sort of a I2s '‘standard’ for hook up to 3rd party DAC’s.

If my Rockna WDN can work with the DS over I2s there is no reason to rule out that this unit cannot, IMO.

Just FYI : http://www.i2s.sonore.us is the chart that Jesus of Sonore maintains of I2S compatibilities.

One possibility which would require a bit of work, but which looks highly intriguing to me, would be figuring out a way to get the I2s outputs from a raspberry pi successfully talking to a DS. If I have any time this summer, I’m hoping to work on this project.

To TarnishedEars:

https://volumio.org/forum/raspberry-music-player-with-i2s-out-over-hdmi-t2441-20.html

…and yes, Harbapapa is me!

Hi Harba, I agree with you 41_gif41_gif41_gif

Raspberry Pi2 + Audio Gd I2s output module + HD-Plex linear Psu + Moode (its generic driver works perfectly with DS).

This is the best source I ever tried. Great and inexpensive.

Now I’m going to build a streamer based on the new Pi3, with integrated linear Psu and Belleson SPHP 10A regulator

Thanks harbapapa and il Carletto!

My previous googling on this topic had not revealed that anyone was so far along on this this project yet. However I’m glad to see that I simply hadn’t dug deep enough yet.

For the record I found another highly relevant link when investigating further this evening:

http://www.runeaudio.com/forum/i2s-connection-to-an-external-dac-t1337.html

il Carletto: Could you please tell us which Linux distribution and/or streaming program you are running on your Pi? Also, does the program that you are using support streaming DSD either natively or via DoP?

TarnishedEars: I am using Moode.

Native DSD is natively supported, but it doesn’t work with the DS (I don’t know why). Got to set DoP.

pmc7027: Unless things have changed, Paul posted (years ago on DIY Audio) the LVDS over HDMI spec that PS Audio uses. Many of us went down this path to try to create some uniformity in external I2S. Some other companies use other methods.

magister: Thanks for catching the URL typo, and pointing it out. Exactly the type of thing I’d expect from a Latin teacher. (I studied it for 3+ years at an all male Jesuit high school in MD growing up.)

ryonlunch32: I’ll take a look at how we present compatibility to try to make it easier to determine. I can tell you with certainty that as of last model year, we’re compatible with PS Audio. So unless they’ve recently changed, we’re good.

tedsmith: We’re not on Jesus’ list. Perhaps I need to formally request he add us.

tarnishedears: Send me a note if you’re interested in connecting an RPi (or other device) to your DAC. We spent a ton of time working out the details.

schuerholzklump238: Technically, resistors and capacitors should also be considered “computer parts.” The trick is isolating the computer parts from the audio parts… and using I2S to talk to DACs.