Frode said I take for granted that the Pre out and Line out can be used simultanously.why the need for Line out?
Running active subwoofers in parallel with main speakers. Most preamps have this feature.
And, traditionally, for recording.
Elk said And, traditionally, for recording.yeah to feed the reel to reel :)
And a Nakamichi Dragon.
wow Nakamicki haven’t heard that for a awhile
No problem.
Frode said Running active subwoofers in parallel with main speakers. Most preamps have this feature.That's daft! Why would you want to send a line level signal to an active subwoofer, and a pre- signal to the main amps?
It would seem to make it hard to match volumes if the sub’s line had fixed volume. I could understand it if the fixed output was going to be used for a headphone amp (but Paul said a good one would be built-in). Given how programmable the preamp is supposed to be perhaps users will be able to choose between fixed and variable output.
brodricj saidThe pre and line is exact the same signal level and both pass through the volume control. It is not Rec out.Frode said Running active subwoofers in parallel with main speakers. Most preamps have this feature.That's daft! Why would you want to send a line level signal to an active subwoofer, and a pre- signal to the main amps?
I have owned 2 preamps lately and both of them had this naming convention.
I use the standard pre-out to drive my main amp/speakers and the secondary set (tape loop) to drive a separate integrated amp driving outside speakers for my deck. My Rogue 99 allows me to set the tape loop out to either by-pass the 99’s internal volume control or run through the volume control by setting a set of switches inside the unit. I like the tape loop out to be line-level (by-pass the internal volume control) so I can set the outside speaker’s level with the integrated amp volume control. Very handy feature IMHO.
Frode saidThe pre and line is exact the same signal level and both pass through the volume control. It is not Rec out.
I have owned 2 preamps lately and both of them had this naming convention.
I have never seen anything with this naming convention.
For me just the smart volume, duplicated balanced + unbalanced outs, configurable inputs, trigger in/out, and a headphone jack would suffice.
I have not seen this either.
I like the flexibility of the setup amsco15 describes however.
There might be a slight misunderstanding here.
The duplicated outputs are not always labelled pre/line out.
The point of confusion for me is that “line out” is synonymous with “line level out”. I’ve never seen it used differently. I don’t know why someone would use it differently. “record out” implies a tape loop (insertion point) and (to a lesser extent) “pre out” implies a volume controlled output.
If you look at the lower picture you see what I mean.
The pre out is a tapping point on the output trafo, but it has the same level as the RCA Line out and both goes through the volume control. One of the problems observed with this amp was that the pre out went dead the moment I switched to balanced output.
This was my penultimate preamp.
I’m with Ted as to nomenclature, but all that matters is that you found the preamp’s features useful.
It might be that Trafomatic uses the wrong nomenclature, but the line out had a variable output.
Interesting exchange in these last few posts. I’ll add my own to the gaggle.
To me, Tape Loop and Line Out have always been fixed level. Preamp Out is variable level - after the volume control. I will admit that Line Out may not be rigidly defined as fixed level and the name could indeed be used for a variable output but I find this interpretation to be confusing.
J.P.
To me, Rec out and Tape out have always been fixed.