I’ve got a P15 ordered and I’m pumped!
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Ear to ear grin about to happen…
You will be hearing things for sure… 
Congratulations
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My house was built in the 60’s and the electrical system could be better. I hope the P15 will help with some of the household interference.
After viewing the video of this audiophile’s 1+ mil super-system and listening room, instead of being in drool mode I’m in ‘I wouldn’t want it even if I had the long green’ mode. I’ve got to at least find looking at it tolerable. Maybe if the lights were always turned off …lol.
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Well, have to admit that I have different taste from his. But I do admire his dedication to his hobby. Here is another million dollar one, but this time nothing to do with power conditioner or regen. 
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I understand that this is a YouTube video/recording, but the sound struck me as underwhelming as compared to other recordings/videos of systems I have viewed/listened to on YouTube.
Kind of odd really…
The system sounded bright and out of balance to me with very little sense of warmth.
Probably just a poor recording…?
Lovely kit though…
FWIW.
Trolling doesn’t help the discussion. Explanations do.
Most regenerator/conditioner arguments are far too black and white, reality is far more complex. I’ve used a regenerator and for a Class A valve amp it was really very useful. It did not have enough sockets, so I also used my 15 year old Olson power strip for some of the devices.
Besides components that have DC power input and have either proprietary or third party external DC power supplies, the increasing number of switch mode powered units seem to benefit from regeneration or conditioning to varying degrees, not always as the manufacturers recommend or expect. The better units often have proprietary power supplies and the manufacturers recommend plugging in to the wall. A regenerator was in my experience of no benefit at all to my digital system. Regeneration probably helps the Stellar amplifiers because they do not have proprietary power supplies.
Mr Powell does pick up on one point that regenerators have a limit as to how much current they can provide and the smaller ones certainly do not have enough sockets for most systems. They are rarely discussed on UK forums, the main comment seems to be that they are very expensive. For a budget digital system a PS Audio Dectet conditioner might be best value for money. It provides 10 sockets in 3 zones, I use the hiFi Power Station that has only 6 sockets but each is separately isolated.
AudioQuest and PS Audio will fight their own corners, for conditioning and regeneration, I don’t think either is entirely correct and price is a major factor.
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An interesting sidelight to this topic for me is the cord from wall to P15, where I currently have a 1m AC-12. When I was speaking to Alex of WyWires about buying some Palladian power cords, he said it wasn’t worth changing the AC-12 because, well, it’s an AC regenerator. Paul recently mentioned in one of his videos that the regenerator isn’t perfect, so the better and shorter a shielded the source cord the better what the regenerator supplies. The other day I decided to swap in a spare (burned-in) 6’ Palladian to hear what would happen. Now, the P15 feeds an Oppo, Lampi dac, Supratek tube preamp, ATC two-way floorstanders, a small LPS, a cable box and HDTV, and all the power cords for them are WW Palladians and Diamonds. The result of the swap, even after 24 hours, was a noticeably clearer sound, but reduced bass and a loss of image focus; i.e., the musical image sounded disjointed. Perhaps just too much current draw for the Palladian, which elsewhere easily surpasses the AC-12 in sound quality. I look forward to trying the next Diamond I pick up in there.
highstream…I highly recommend trying the Pangea
AC9 SE MkII…
Currently have P15 powering : Parasound JC5 Class A/AB first
12 watts Class A then AB to 400/channel is a monster amp ; Oppo 205,
Emotiva XSP1 Gen 2
My all Pangea loom performs superbly…and not looking to
upgrading for anything else…they are that good!!
(I’m biased :grin )
Best wishes friend
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I wasn’t posting for suggestions, but to mention another angle to the regenerator discussion. However, I do have experience with Pangea power cords back in what must have been the Mk1 days, both their then $29 and $99 versions. I found that they weren’t a bargain. There’s a lot of development and labor time and knowledge, along with material and machinery costs, that go into producing a power cord that benefits a better sounding system. That’s not to justify any particular pricing, but broadly speaking you get what you pay for.
Back to the thread’s topic…
Sorry… guess I misunderstood…
Best wishes
For me, I never take YouTube sound seriously, instead it is interesting to watch what extreme high end system look like inside owner’s home.
The lady, I think she work(s/ed?) for stereophile, did her best to capture the sound, but limited by what YouTube can provide. I found those info on system setup very interesting. We will never know how that system really sound.
BTW. When I need “good” YouTube sound, I turn to YouTube channel by Kendrick Sound.
Maybe should start a new topic in the forum here called “ million dollar system “ 
I’ve never heard of this Garth guy before, but it’s obvious he has ZERO experience with PS Audio regenerators. He briefly mentions that he was at Furman and tried to do some regenerator stuff, so maybe he assumes that since he couldn’t figure out how to make a great regenerator for audio applications, that it couldn’t be done… 
I actually have mostly Audioquest cables throughout my entire system, and the fact that this dumbass works for Audioquest almost makes me want to get rid of them…
To call him a dumbass is pretty ignorant. He doesn’t believe in regeneration and developed his own way of delivering clean power to systems without regeneration. Garth Powell also helped design the power cables and speaker cables (Audioquest Dragon) that PS Audio uses in their reference system.
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For him to summarily dismiss power regenerators as inferior, obviously without having listened to the them, makes him a dumbass.
No one’s a dumbass, people just have different perspectives, and also have a natural tendency to promote their products whenever they can (Paul included).
I use Shunyata conditioners and from what I understand their background was in medical equipment, that needs extremely low noise levels but as medical equipment rarely plays music, transient speed would not be the first priority. Nic Poulson of Isotek and Isol-8 I think started doing industrial and military, before moving to audio, and designed amplifiers for 10 years before doing power. So he has a broad perspective, and does both conditioners and regenerators, ranging from $300 to $30,000. PS Audio seems to have focused on transformer based pre and power amplification, so regeneration probably better suits their products. Nic Poulson’s amplifier brand, Trilogy, does mono blocks at the $30,000 level (they are stunningly good). If PS Audio supplied that market, perhaps they’s do a more sophistical regenerator at the $20,000 or $30,000 level.
The problem is that some people just focus on making excellent audio products and let the competition do the worrying, others just see the competition. Personally, I admire the good engineers who can also provide great value for money.
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If I have PSA gears, I use PSA power regen.
If I have McIntosh gears, I use McIntosh MPC.
Well…I strongly disagree. If you’ve never encountered anyone that you thought was worthy of the title “dumbass”, then you are much more forgiving of poor character traits than I am. It has nothing to do with Mr. Powell’s intelligence, or even his engineering chops. Maybe the day he did that video was just a bad day, and the rest of the time he doesn’t act like a tool…I don’t know. However, based solely on what I observed in this video, I stand fast on my earlier assessment.
I also admire good engineers who can provide great value for the often significant money we pay for audio products. I think that the PS Audio regenerators, at full retail price, are stretching the value equation to near the breaking point, but the same could be said for the conditioners from Audioquest. I love my P20, and it provided a noticeable improvement in sound over my prior P10, but I don’t know that I can honestly say that the difference in sound quality from my system was “worth” the difference between what I paid for the P20, and what I sold the P10 for. I guess it was worth it to me, because I kept the P20, but not everyone’s math would work out the same. Now…when I compare the performance of my system without a regenerator to it’s performance with the P20, I absolutely consider the regenerator to be good value for the money. A used P10 would have to be considered outstanding value for the money, relative to no regenerator.
It’s interesting that you mentioned Shunyata, as they’re only 15 minutes up the road from my house. I’ve long been curious about their product lines, but was always a little turned off by their reluctance to discuss the design principles of their gear.
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I once auditioned an Audioquest 7000 conditioner and liked it very much. But it doesn’t compare to the P20.
As Emperor Nero once said, “Nice, not thrilling, but nice”
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