No need to apologize, same topic really.
How about splitting the output from the Sony using a Matrix switch, this way you could send the 4k video out of one HDMI output, and the second HDMI output for sound to whatever you have hooked up currently.
The Sony is easy because of having the hdmi 2 audio output. I run the audio out of the Sony to the hdmi switch, then through the board to the dac, and the Sony hdmi 1 video out to the projector. Please help me understand if I’m just not getting it, but for the Nvidia Shield with only one HDMI output, I don’t see a way to get the 4k video to my projector without having to go through the board, that isn’t capable of passing it. Appreciate your thoughts on this!
Ok, understood. So let’s take the Nvidia then, with one HDMI out, can we get a hdmi splitter (1 in 2 out) and split that signal out into one to the projector (not sure how many inputs it has) and one to the current hdmi switch? Then no worry on trying to get 4K from the board. That monoprice Blackbird could work, I think, in place of your current splitter and a new 1x2 splitter.
Thoughts?
Great idea! If I do try this I’ll order the Blackbird to eliminate a box. BUT, in testing the board, when fed a 4k signal it won’t even output audio to the DAC. It flashes the audio numbers on the DS Dac with a black screen from the projector. The Sony UHD HDMI 2 audio only signal passes through the board to the DAC with no issues, but I think that’s because that signal isn’t 4K…so splitting the 4K signal doesn’t seem like a fix. I looked at an HDMI audio extractor but I’d lose high res, which is the point. I’ve messaged the ebay seller twice to ask if the new board will pass 4K with no answer. That would solve all life’s problems for me LOL.
What I find odd is that the board shouldn’t really care what the video signal is, should it? I wonder what the deal is. I wonder if it is the audio signal embedded with the 4k is something the board can’t read. Or is it the cable itself when sending 4k doesn’t actually have the bandwidth. This is kinda just shooting off theories.
When I first got my Oppo and hooked it to my TV with what I thought was a 4k cable it wouldn’t send the main menu picture to the TV because the cable wasn’t one of those certified 4k cables.
I thought the same thing and tested directly through the board with known 4k cables, still no joy. Same result with the Sony hdmi 1 output and the Shield. May be the same reason 1080p hdmi cables don’t work as the board…?
Does the new board still have a black switch on it, I think it has 3 positions. Have you tried changing that while playing something that doesnt seem to be working?
It does Veneet, and it does affect things. I tinkered with it while trying to get the DSD indication on my DAC while playing an SACD. I believe I ended up with the switch in the 5.1/DSD switch position for that to work. The other switch positions didn’t work, but now I can’t remember why exactly. This board is so finicky about the sequence it’s hdmi ports are powered, I hate tinkering with it lol. The I2S port MUST get the hdmi handshake last or it won’t ouput via I2S…just something I’ve discovered.
I believe this audio extractor unit would work but I haven’t decided if it’s worth $150 to try it out. https://www.amazon.com/HDFury-18Gbps-Audio-Extractor-Splitter/dp/B07DBB31HP/ref=pd_sbs_5?pd_rd_w=U74xU&pf_rd_p=ed1e2146-ecfe-435e-b3b5-d79fa072fd58&pf_rd_r=1AW77VJYV5WVK1KXQQ5V&pd_rd_r=15b41184-6904-4548-8339-7879d742bc63&pd_rd_wg=32MBz&pd_rd_i=B07DBB31HP&th=1
I would have to figure out where to place in the signal path. I believe I’d go sources>hdmi switch>HDFury Audio Extractor>projector and chinese I2S board>DS Dac. That way it keeps all 4K signals away from the board. I was able to use the board without the video output hdmi plugged in, so that’s nice. But if the input signal is 4K the board won’t pass even the audio through. Just fyi.
This setup involves too many connections and cables just to allow use of the I2S board with my Shield TV Pro, which I’ve settled on using the USB output to my DAC. I really wish there was a better solution for I2S than the cheapo board. I have found no other way to get hi res audio to my rig while playing blu rays and UHD’s in my Sony player. I’m less concerned about DSD as I only have a couple SACD’s. Otherwise I’ll need an A/V pre or reciever, most of which can’t compare to the system I’m running now quality wise.
Using audio extractor with Oppo 203 player with DirectStream (senior, DS SR).
HDMI/MHL Interface Separate Extract Audio I2S/Optic Fiber/Coaxial HDMI-I2S/IIS | eBay
It works well with DS SR- I can play SACD (dsd 64) and also watch Bluray movies into the i2s (input1) port.
The extractor can self-power via the HDMI from Oppo. Initially I use the eARC out from Oppo (but it must have HDMI to TV connected, otherwise it stops output)- so I used the hdmi output directly from Oppo.
However, I ran into a strange problem- anyone have thoughts on why/solutions?
Oppo hdmi is plugged into the audio extractor, then an hdmi output is hooked into the TV, and i2s into DS SR.
Ffter turning DS unit off (I even unplugged the power cable). Both power and display is strobing white light. It seems the oppo continues to power the audio extractor which then supplied power into the i2s port. But why is DS power button and display - the entire display is lit up in white then off, then on/off cyclically like a strobe light effect?
The DS was designed to provide 5V power to the external I2S device (as were all PS Audio products.) There is a polyfuse to limit the current to the I2S device, but I2S devices that provide 5V weren’t expected. When an I2S device provides 5V to the DS it is in essence trying to power the whole DS. Depending on the current it can source there are a variety of symptoms you might see. In your case the I2S device has enough current to power up the display, but then it stops because of the overload. Then it starts again…
Don’t send 5V to the DS via I2S. You can disconnect the I2S device before you power off the DS. Using standby on the DS won’t be an issue since the guts of the DS will be powered up anyway.
Some have put tape over the 5V pin in the I2S connection, some I2S devices have a switch to disable providing 5V, etc.
Just curious, I was told those devices sometimes reverse the left and right channels when playing SACDs. Do you hear this with your HDMI to i2s converter?
@Leonard - the specific device mentioned have no issue with R/L channels.
@tedsmith - now that I know it is the 5v in the power pin- I see you’ve gave this advice many times over the years (apologies for not finding it when I search the forum for screen on/off). I re-configured the outlets to make sure the Oppo is powered down in conjunction with the DS.
Hi, I’m trying to duplicate what you’ve got set up except with a Sony XBP-800M2 What are your Audio Settings on the BluRay player?
Start with HDMI 2 of your Sony connected to the HDMI in on the adapter board. I2S HDMI out on the adapter board is connected to your DAC’s I2S HDMI in. Circled in yellow goes to your AVR or TV. Circled in red goes to your adapter.
Now here’s my settings in the Sony menu :
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I software modded my OPPO CDP-105 to direct bit perfect DSF data stream via ethernet to a PC. I ripped my entire library of SACD’s to hard drive. Runs perfects with both J-river and Roon to any DSF compatible DAC.
Thanks so much for the Settings info. I think I’ve tracked down my issue. I’m currently on a PWD mk2 and was wanting to get the PCM over I2S working, but I don’t think the HDMI adapter board maps the MCLK to the right pins. This is needed by the PWD but ignored by the DS. Since I’m going to a DS in the next few weeks I’m not sure I’ll dive any deeper into the pin mapping for the HDMI/IIS adapter board. Pretty sure it’ll work as advertised with a DS.
Hi, Just wanted to chime in EVERYTHING WORKS!!! Did you do anything about the 5v supply from the DS Sr or the Sony? I was thinking that with the 5v supply to the adaptor and the 5v from DS Sr. and Sony, how are all the extra sources helping or hurting the adaptor board? anyway thanks for the tips it works great.
Just a 8A power brick from Amazon will work. HDMI 5VDC is not enough. It will dropout like crazy.
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Didn’t Ted say somewhere we should mask off a pin to prevent the interference of the DS and/or the Sony?