There is a simple modification that can be done to an OPPO that will allow native DSD playback direct into the PS Audio DS DAC.
http://www.audiopraise.com/forum/read.php?11,503
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There is a simple modification that can be done to an OPPO that will allow native DSD playback direct into the PS Audio DS DAC.
http://www.audiopraise.com/forum/read.php?11,503
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Now that would be interesting …
It violates all kinds of legal agreements. Maybe people will just jump in and do it … although I cannot endorse that action or have anything to do with it as an official of the company so… I have to make you all aware this is illegal. What you do in your own systems is not my business, right?
gordon said Jany update on this?
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Paul McGowan said Now that would be interesting ...It would really interesting if it does multichannel...
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Paul McGowan said It violates all kinds of legal agreements. Maybe people will just jump in and do it ... although I cannot endorse that action or have anything to do with it as an official of the company so... I have to make you all aware this is illegal. What you do in your own systems is not my business, right?I'm not an attorney so don't count on me for legal advise....
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mi hermano tiene su DS ahora. En Doral
gordon said Jmi hermano tiene su DS ahora. En Doral
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The Oppo based EC EMP3 does multichannel DSD over HDMI - I think I should just mention it.
However, it cost more than the Oppo 103
Frode said The Oppo based EC EMP3 does multichannel DSD over HDMI - I think I should just mention it.However, it cost more than the Oppo 103
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vortecjr saidFrode said The Oppo based EC EMP3 does multichannel DSD over HDMI - I think I should just mention it.However, it cost more than the Oppo 103
That is completely different and will not work into the PS Audio DAC. That solution is meant to go into a compatible receiver and or processor. BTW good luck trying to figure out if it’s really native DSD playback inside the receiver and or processor.
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There is reason why no hi end audio company has done this:)
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vortecjr said There is reason why no hi end audio company has done this:)Well, I consider both Cary Audio and Electrocompaniet as High End brands.Jesus R
Frode saidYour missing point. Show me a DAC or an integrated amp made by either of those two companies with an HDMI input. You just have to look at the back of the EC EMP3 to see that the mods are primarily to the analog output. The fact is that the HDMI output on the EC EMP3 is for AV use. Manufacturers of audiophile gear are using SPDIF, AES/EBU, Toslink, USB input and to a small degree some kind of i2s in one of several formats, but not HDMI.vortecjr said There is reason why no hi end audio company has done this:)Well, I consider both Cary Audio and Electrocompaniet as High End brands.Jesus R
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vortecjr saidSo why are they not doing it?Frode saidYour missing point. Show me a DAC or an integrated amp made by either of those two companies with an HDMI input. You just have to look at the back of the EC EMP3 to see that the mods are primarily to the analog output. The fact is that the HDMI output on the EC EMP3 is for AV use. Manufacturers of audiophile gear are using SPDIF, AES/EBU, Toslink, USB input and to a small degree some kind of i2s in one of several formats, but not HDMI.vortecjr said There is reason why no hi end audio company has done this:)Well, I consider both Cary Audio and Electrocompaniet as High End brands.Jesus R
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It is built into the DAC chips for those non-FPGA based DACs so it won’t take a lot of efforts, normally.
Is it because of license cost or lesser audio quality?
Frode saidvortecjr saidFrode saidvortecjr said There is reason why no hi end audio company has done this:)Jesus R
Well, I consider both Cary Audio and Electrocompaniet as High End brands.
Your missing point. Show me a DAC or an integrated amp made by either of those two companies with an HDMI input. You just have to look at the back of the EC EMP3 to see that the mods are primarily to the analog output. The fact is that the HDMI output on the EC EMP3 is for AV use. Manufacturers of audiophile gear are using SPDIF, AES/EBU, Toslink, USB input and to a small degree some kind of i2s in one of several formats, but not HDMI.
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So why are they not doing it?
It is built into the DAC chips for those non-FPGA based DACs so it won’t take a lot of efforts, normally.
Is it because of license cost or lesser audio quality?
vortecjr saidFrode saidSo why are they not doing it?
It is built into the DAC chips for those non-FPGA based DACs so it won’t take a lot of efforts, normally.
Is it because of license cost or lesser audio quality?
I would think because of cost, audio quality, complexity and so on. HDMI support is not built into the DAC chips…
The NAD M51 DAC has HDMI input and retails at $1500. I wonder how they do it?
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I would think because of cost, audio quality, complexity and so on. HDMI support is not built into the DAC chips....Are you sure about this? It doesn't match up with my reading (Cary):
Also, I understand that SACD is proprietary Sony, watermarked and licenced, but is transport of native DSD between devices considered the same and thus have the same restrictions?
I guess HDCP applies to non-audio, so unless the HDMI port doesn’t pass video the missing EDID implementation should not pose a problem.
Edit;
I agree that DAC chips doesn’t support any physical HDMI ports, just the format.
So you will need an interface card of some kind that many brands support already.