chris said: My network background in not big enough and there are to much options to make it right or wrong.
Let's rephrase it to "there are several ways to make it working".
OK, the simplified basics.
You have three devices in one network. All these three devices must have the same network mask (255.255.255.0) and the same network part of the IP-addresses (192.168.178.).
IP-addresses can be assigned either statically (manually) or dynamically (by DHCP).
For the NAS and the Bridge, you must assign the IP-addresses manually:
192.168.178.40 Bridge
192.168.178.1 NAS
Network mask is 255.255.255.0 in all cases. Since there will be no Internet access, it does not matter what IP-address you will configure as the default gateway or DNS server. For simplicity, let's assume that it will be the NAS itself:
192.168.178.1 Default gateway, DNS server
To add iPad you will need to configure DHCP on the NAS. Most likely it will be in the "Hotspot" section. Could you please paste some screen shots for this section?
Gordon said: I still suggest that you use a router for now [will work immediately]
He-he… Yes, if configured correctly
Gordon, in this particular case, the NAS IS the router. There is be no difference.
My actuell network is with a router and it is simple to manage, but this “all in one” NAS is a little bit more tricky - for me.
I put a SSD in the NAS to make everything faster and after that I made a new installation of the NAS operation system as you can see in the picture 1-3.
The other picture 4-8 show all settings I or the NAS ( in case of the WiFi ) made.
During the Setup of the NAS ( Picture 2 ) I had to change the IP Adress because the NAS told me that the 192.168.178.1"was in use", - but it does not matter.
Before I make any changes some question:
It is right that I have to set the “Network Map Configuration” to Wireless Hotspot ? (Picture 8)
Picture 6 : What about the placement " Configure as UPnP Internet Gateway" do I need this ?
An another note
Two days ago I was unable to change the IP of the Wireless setting, it was fix given by the NAS.
chris said: It is right that I have to set the "Network Map Configuration" to Wireless Hotspot ? (Picture 8)
Yes, it must be "Wireles Hotspot". But on the picture, "Wireless Router" is chosen.
chris said: Picture 6 : What about the placement " Configure as UPnP Internet Gateway" do I need this ?
I do not see this on the picture, but you do nod need this.
chris said: During the Setup of the NAS ( Picture 2 ) I had to change the IP Adress because the NAS told me that the 192.168.178.1"was in use", - but it does not matter.
Probably it was either already configured on one of the NAS interfaces, or on other devices (Bridge, iPAd)
Do not forget to change the IP of the Bridge to 169.254.223.something.
I set the “Network Map Configuration” to “Wireless Hotspot” and as you can see I am actual unable to affect the WLAN IP adress setting. The ipad found no Gateway ( 0.0.0.0), is unable to connect with the NAS.
The app “LANScan” on my ipad is searching the IP Range from 169.254.0.1 - 169.254.255.254.
I guess the IP is still 10.1.14.1 an therefore in a different network and this could be a serious problem
I think there must be a bundled DHCP server, but, anyway, this one looks good. Just add a new range (for some reason called “Subnet”) for about 10 addresses. For example, 169.254.223.80-169.254.223.90.
Just in case, the DHCP range must be from the same network where you Bridge is located, so all devices will be in 169.254.223.0/255.255.255.0
Alekz said: I think there must be a bundled DHCP server
I only saw a bundled DHCP Server in the "Wireless Router" Networkconfiguration.
Alekz said: think there must be a bundled DHCP server, but, anyway, this one looks good. Just add a new range (for some reason called "Subnet") for about 10 addresses. For example, 169.254.223.80-169.254.223.90.
OK, - the system ignores 169.254.223.80-169.254.223.90 , gives an error. And what is my Primary DNS ? Maybe I have to insert it first ?
And look to the (Red) Note that there are 3 different "fixed" IP Ranges, - does this influence anything ?
chris said: And look to the (Red) Note that there are 3 different "fixed" IP Ranges, - does this influence anything ?
Yyyyyes.. I see. To avoid possible conflicts they allow only the private (unroutable on the Internet) spaces. I would advise you to move back to 192.168.178.0 network (also for the default netmask reason).
192.168.178.2 Bridge
192.168.178.1 NAS, default gateway, DNS server
192.168.178.10-192.168.178.20 DHCP range/subnet
255.255.255.0 netmask
If the NAS GUI refuses to setup 192.168.178.1 as the default gateway, set it up to, say, 192.168.178.3. It does not matter if this address does not exist, because you will not access Internet anyway.
All this private spaces I try are called "in Use" and it is not possible to set up the NAS.
Could it be an idee to set up a new Windowssystem whithout contact to the mainrouter and the internet and try to set up the NAS then ?
chris said: All this private spaces I try are called "in Use"
You cannot use ".0" at the end of the IP-address. E.g. 10.1.14.0 with a mask 255.255.255.0 is a network IP-address, not a host one. 10.1.14.1 will work.
Alekz said: You cannot use ".0" at the end of the IP-address. E.g. 10.1.14.0 with a mask 255.255.255.0 is a network IP-address, not a host one. 10.1.14.1 will work.
I see. The NAS can't use the same IP for itself and the default gateway. Then use the Bridge IP-address for the default gateway. If it still does not work, change the DNS IP to the Bridge one, or just use a non-existent IP -address as I suggested earlier.
Yes, you can use just about any number for the default gateway. Try the one that the Bridge defaults to, or use the one from your internet router. It makes sense that the router must have an address other than itself for a gateway.
I was suggesting using an address from another network. I do get what he is trying to do and in that configuration the NAS is performing the task of the router regardless of what the NAS configuration calls it. It is just a matter of giving the standalone network an address to satisfy its requirements even if that function will never be used.
chris said: One question: of you say router, - with "Setting" do you mean on the Nas ?
No, just ignore others comments until you try all my suggestions ;) They mean something completely different, what will work but this is not what you want to achieve.
