@chris
Hi Chris
Have you tried a net-fix on the Bridge?
This is different from the rescue.
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Gordon said: Have you tried a net-fix on the Bridge?
Yes, and it worked:
chris said: Hey Alekz
Whow, the netfix made it in about 20 seconds !!!! Thanks a lot!
cool.
the rescue is only really necessary if someone interrupts an update.
net-fix is usually a quick fix.
Thanks for helping Chris.
Gordon said: cool.
the rescue is only really necessary if someone interrupts an update.
net-fix is usually a quick fix.
Thanks for helping Chris.
Hi Gordon
Thank you for require :-* For me that means you have to overwork the "PerfectWave network Bridge part" of the knowledge Base to "dispose" this problem of once and for all :)>-
Thank you so much
Alekz said: Do you have the Internet router in the same network (192.168.178.0/24)? If yes, then your network should be "flat".
Which Internet Router ? The 213Air has no connection to a Internetrouter :-/
What do you mean with "flat" ?
The picture show you what I (hopefully right) did.
After I stopped the DHCP of the PWD Bridge a gave a static adress it indicates "connected":
IP: 169.254.223.1
Subnet:225.225.225.0
Primary DNS: 169.254.223.1
Secondary DNS: 192.168.249.206 ( Made the PWD Bridge autonomous ... ?)
My ipad also connected to the 213air after I gave a it a static ip Adress:
IP: 169.254.223.1
Subnet: 225.225.225.0
Router: ????
DNS: 169.254.223.1
Search Domain: ????
BUT:
There is no UPNP app on my ipad which detect the NAS although the ipad is connected to the 213air ?
And my ipad APP "NetMaster HD" shows me a " Network Scan Error, No WiFi interface found"
The adjustment of the 213air in the menu:
Thanks so much !!
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chris said: Which Internet Router ? The 213Air has no connection to a Internetrouter
So you network is completely isolated from the Internet? Just in case, the album art will not work without a working Internet connection.
chris said: What do you mean with "flat" ?
No routers in between. One broadcast domain.
chris said: IP: 169.254.223.1
What device has this IP-address configured? I thought it's your Internet router, but since you haven't got one, you can point both default gateway and the DNS server to your NAS, which is 192.168.178.60, as far as I know.
If you configure everything statically (no DHCP) with no Internet access, then it could look like this:
192.168.178.1 - iPad
192.168.178.60 - NAS, the default gateway and the DNS server
192.168.178.40 - Bridge
That’s why I suggested earlier to reset all to dhcp and let his internal LAN router do all the assignment work. The IPs and gateways should then all fall into line and he can freeze them with static if he wants?
alekz thank you so much ;
and sorry for this asking over and over again, but sometimes we are not speaking over the same things, my englisch isn’t that good and maby I do not understand enough about network settings. 8-|
Alekz said: So you network is completely isolated from the Internet? Just in case, the album art will not work without a working Internet connection.
No problem, every single music file folder has a “cover” picture.
Alekz said: What device has this IP-address IP: 169.254.223.1 configured?
It was the NAS during the first setup … and I took it because this seems totaly different ( for me ) from the 192.168.178.1 setup which I use in my Main Network. I would be shure there is no “overlap”.
To service the NAS 213air I have to hang it direkt and exclusive alone ( RJ45 Cat-cable) to my Workstation where the NAS surface appears.
Alekz said: If you configure everything statically (no DHCP) with no Internet access, then it could look like this:
192.168.178.1 - iPad
192.168.178.60 - NAS, the default gateway and the DNS server
192.168.178.40 - Bridge
As you can see in the sreenshots of my last post there are only this two pages to configure the settings:
“General” - Default gateway and DNS server
“LAN” - IP adress and sub mask
“Hotspot” is only on and off
…, nothing more
So, the default Gateway seams clear but where is your"iPad and NAS" Setting ? And why is the ipad connecting to the "network " but is not connected ?
I am not sure anymore that it is possible to solve this problem … :-S
chris
Gordon said: That's why I suggested earlier to reset all to dhcp and let his internal LAN router do all the assignment work. The IPs and gateways should then all fall into line and he can freeze them with static if he wants?
This is what I would say and done, - thanks Gordon
OK, I see now.
So, let’s discuss first the all static manual configuration with no DHCP:
192.168.178.1 - NAS, the default gateway and the DNS server
This address is configured in the “Network Interface” panel
192.168.178.40 - Bridge
This address you configure using the PWD panel
192.168.178.60 - iPad
This address you configure on the iPad itself
If it’s not possible, then you have to configure DHCP on your NAS. Please set up the IP-range (DHCP IP pool) outside of the used IP-addresses. For example, you can use 192.168.178.50-192.168.178.100
chris said: And why is the ipad connecting to the "network " but is not connected ?
Possibly because of duplicate or not defined IP-address on your iPad.
Gordon said: That’s why I suggested earlier to reset all to dhcp and let his internal LAN router do all the assignment work. The IPs and gateways should then all fall into line and he can freeze them with static if he wants?
It will not work because there is no internal LAN router. Only NAS, PWD and iPad.
Alekz said: It will not work because there is no internal LAN router. Only NAS, PWD and iPad.
So put one in.
It will do all the work, then copy all the addresses and use them without it.
I don't see this as ever stable without a router or smart switch. plus the router will allow the use of a wireless control point.
Gordon said: So put one in.
This is what I was said in the very beginning, but the goal of this thread is NOT to have any devices in between.
Gordon said: I don't see this as ever stable without a router or smart switch. plus the router will allow the use of a wireless control point.
The NAS can act as all three.
Alekz said: 192.168.178.1 - NAS, the default gateway and the DNS server
This address is configured in the "Network Interface" panel
Right, the General Network Control Panel.
Alekz said: 192.168.178.40 - Bridge
This address you configure using the PWD panel
No, Bridge setting right now:
IP: 169.254.223.1
Subnet: /24
Gateway: 169.254.223.1
Primary DNS 192.168.178.1
Secondary DNS 192.168.249.206
I do not remember that I insert the Primary and the Secondary DNS, mysterius ...
Alekz said: 192.168.178.60 - iPad
This address you configure on the iPad itself
Right now my originally static entry is delated ( but not from me ) and the ipad is searching (in DHCP modus ) for the 213air network - and I am getting more and more confused.
So, what do you think - is the setting of the NAS Interface right ?
And if yes, what entry or changes do I have to make in the PWD Bridge and in the ipad
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chris said: IP: 169.254.223.1
Subnet: /24
Gateway: 169.254.223.1
Primary DNS 192.168.178.1
Secondary DNS 192.168.249.206
These are the default settings. You have to change them according to your local network.
For example:
IP: 192.168.178.40
Netmask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.178.1
Primary DNS 192.168.178.1
No DHCP
chris said: the ipad is searching (in DHCP modus ) for the 213air network - and I am getting more and more confused.
Hence I said:
Alekz said: you have to configure DHCP on your NAS. Please set up the IP-range (DHCP IP pool) outside of the used IP-addresses. For example, you can use 192.168.178.50-192.168.178.100
Probably you can find the DHCP settings in the Hotspot panel.
OK - This was my last try and from now on I stopp this experiment.
My network background in not big enough and there are to much options to make it right or wrong.
Thanks Alekz
OK - This was my last try and from now on I stopp this experiment.
My network background in not big enough and there are to much options to make it right or wrong.
Thanks Alekz
I can appreciate this, but keep in mind that the only way (at least for me) to understand the fundamentals is to experiment opposed to reading about it. It is very hard to understand networks when you do not possess the basic knowledge. After working with it (and banging my head against the wall quite a few times) I got many AHA! feelings. So now I am able to pinpoint the problems immediatly without fiddling about in the dark.
OK - This was my last try and from now on I stopp this experiment.
My network background in not big enough and there are to much options to make it right or wrong.
Thanks Alekz
I can appreciate this, but keep in mind that the only way (at least for me) to understand the fundamentals is to experiment opposed to reading about it. It is very hard to understand networks when you do not possess the basic knowledge. After working with it (and banging my head against the wall quite a few times) I got many AHA! feelings. So now I am able to pinpoint the problems immediatly without fiddling about in the dark.
Thats a solid objection, but I have to make a brake.
@chris
Although what you are trying to do is indeed “doable” I still suggest that you use a router for now [will work immediately] and then over time you can study a bit to learn how to remove it, if you want to.
Meanwhile you will be listening to beautiful music.
Gordon said: I still suggest that you use a router for now [will work immediately]
He-he... :D Yes, if configured correctly ;)
Gordon, in this particular case, the NAS IS the router. There is be no difference.
frode said: After working with it (and banging my head against the wall quite a few times) I got many AHA! feelings
Nowadays basic networking must be taught in schools.