Playing back DVD-V and other formats


#21

Hi Paul,

Would having a .pdf information file on the USB throw the DMP off? I’ll try deleting the album information and try again.


#22

Dunno. Have to ask the guys. It may well throw it off. (it’s not all that smart).


#23

Put only the files (no enclosing folders or other files) on the drive.


#24

Hi BB,

tried that - I placed only a single track on the (different) USB and it still won’t play. I’ll contact SoundKeeper. The DMP doesn’t play AIFF does it as that is their alternate uncompressed file. it isn’t listed in the manual.


#25

Have you tried putting one of the SK tracks on the HD Tracks drive that plays? I’m wondering if the DMP doesn’t like how the drive is formatted (despite your being able to see files, etc.)?


#26

No - this whole thing is weird because the files play okay on Windows10 / Media Player


#27

I mention this because I recall having thumb drives that played on the computer that didn’t play on the DMP. I think it had to do with formatting of the drive (can’t recall what it’s supposed to be at the moment, as I prefer the sound of playing files burned to DVDs on the DMP).


#28

I tried copying a single track (WAV) to a DVD-R disc using ImgBurn software. It doesn’t play on the DMP either.

I think I will ask SK to send me the album on a CD.

Cheers

Frank

Below is the log from the DVD creation

I 22:11:44 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
I 22:11:44 Microsoft Windows 8 Core x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200)
I 22:11:44 Total Physical Memory: 3,140,464 KiB - Available: 950,124 KiB
I 22:11:44 Initialising SPTI…
I 22:11:44 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices…
I 22:11:44 -> Drive 1 - Info: TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L633A AC00 (D:) (SATA)
I 22:11:44 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 22:44:01 Operation Started!
I 22:44:01 Building Image Tree…
I 22:44:13 Checking Directory Depth…
I 22:44:13 Calculating Totals…
I 22:44:13 Preparing Image…
W 22:44:13 ISO9660 File System: 1 folder/file name has been modified due to your current settings.
I 22:44:13 Checking Path Length…
I 22:44:13 Contents: 1 File, 0 Folders
I 22:44:13 Content Type: Data
I 22:44:13 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 22:44:13 File System(s): ISO9660
I 22:44:13 Volume Label: 92005W11
I 22:44:13 Size: 43,302,824 bytes
I 22:44:13 Sectors: 21,144
I 22:44:13 Image Size: 43,352,064 bytes
I 22:44:13 Image Sectors: 21,168
I 22:44:25 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:24
I 22:44:25 Operation Started!
I 22:44:25 Source File: -==//[BUILD IMAGE]/==-
I 22:44:25 Source File Sectors: 21,168 (MODE1/2048)
I 22:44:25 Source File Size: 43,352,064 bytes
I 22:44:25 Source File Volume Identifier: 92005W11
I 22:44:25 Source File Volume Set Identifier: UNDEFINED
I 22:44:25 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.8.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 22:44:25 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0
I 22:44:25 Source File File System(s): ISO9660
I 22:44:25 Destination Device: [0:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L633A AC00 (D:) (SATA)
I 22:44:25 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20)
I 22:44:25 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 3x, 4x, 6x, 8x
I 22:44:25 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888
I 22:44:25 Write Mode: DVD
I 22:44:25 Write Type: DAO
I 22:44:25 Write Speed: MAX
I 22:44:25 Link Size: Auto
I 22:44:25 Lock Volume: Yes
I 22:44:25 Test Mode: No
I 22:44:25 OPC: No
I 22:44:25 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 22:44:28 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,080 KB/s (8x)
I 22:44:28 Filling Buffer… (80 MiB)
I 22:44:39 Writing LeadIn…
I 22:45:12 Writing Session 1 of 1… (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 21167)
I 22:45:12 Writing Track 1 of 1… (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 21167)
I 22:45:21 Synchronising Cache…
I 22:48:30 Exporting Graph Data…
I 22:48:30 Graph Data File: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_TS-L633A_AC00_MONDAY-APRIL-24-2017_10-44_PM_MCC_03RG20_MAX.ibg
I 22:48:30 Export Successfully Completed!
I 22:48:30 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:05
I 22:48:30 Average Write Rate: 4,704 KiB/s (3.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 4,896 KiB/s (3.6x)
I 22:48:30 Cycling Tray before Verify…
I 22:49:00 Device Ready!
I 22:49:02 Operation Started!
I 22:49:02 Source Device: [0:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L633A AC00 (D:) (SATA)
I 22:49:02 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20)
I 22:49:02 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x
I 22:49:03 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 3x, 4x, 6x, 8x
I 22:49:03 Source Media Sectors: 21,168 (Track Path: PTP)
I 22:49:03 Source Media Size: 43,352,064 bytes
I 22:49:03 Image File: -==//[BUILD IMAGE]/==-
I 22:49:03 Image File Sectors: 21,168 (MODE1/2048)
I 22:49:03 Image File Size: 43,352,064 bytes
I 22:49:03 Image File Volume Identifier: 92005W11
I 22:49:03 Image File Volume Set Identifier: UNDEFINED
I 22:49:03 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.8.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 22:49:03 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0
I 22:49:03 Image File File System(s): ISO9660
I 22:49:03 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 22:49:04 Read Speed - Effective: 3.2x - 8x
I 22:49:04 Verifying Session 1 of 1… (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 21167)
I 22:49:04 Verifying Track 1 of 1… (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 21167)
I 22:49:15 Exporting Graph Data…
I 22:49:15 Graph Data File: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_TS-L633A_AC00_MONDAY-APRIL-24-2017_10-44_PM_MCC_03RG20_MAX.ibg
I 22:49:15 Export Successfully Completed!
I 22:49:15 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:11
I 22:49:15 Average Verify Rate: 4,233 KiB/s (3.1x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 4,690 KiB/s (3.5x)


#29

I see it’s ISO9660, but not sure if it is making a DVD-ROM data disc or some other form of DVD. Needs to be the former, don’t do any changes to it. If that doesn’t work, seems like it must be the file.


#30

as a test I copied one of the albums I purchased in WAV from HDTracks - Rebecca Pidgeon / The Raven in 24/176 resolution. Ran the same DVD creation using ImgBurn and it loaded ok and appears to play (e.g. time counter on DMP display incrementing) - I didn’t switch the entire system on to listen to playback as everyone has gone to bed.

I think it’s got to be the SK WAV file structure.

I’m going to ask them if they would be prepared to send me (at no extra cost) a CD and also a DVD-r at 24/192 so I can see if that will play. I know the CD will as I already have a couple of their albums.

It’s a learning curve.


#31

Gave up, PS Audio DMP and SoundKeeper WAV don’t want to play. Pity DMP doesn’t play AIFF but there it is. So my experiment to compare different resolution of the same master didn’t eventuate. SK is sending me CDs of their different albums instead.

Also I found that the albums I purchased from HDTracks in WAV play without any fade between tracks. They just jump from one to the next, I 1st thought the download must had issues but now I realise this is the way the DMP reads the data. Is there a way to enable the DMP to soften the changeover between tracks without editing the WAV files?


#32

Bummer. You could convert the AIFF to WAV. Should be the same data.

Sadly I have noted that sort of behavior as well - contiguous tracks are often interrupted with a gap. Hopefully it is one of the things on the list for the update coming in a few weeks. But maybe I’m confusing that with the DS Huron deal.


#33
frank7036 said

Gave up, PS Audio DMP and SoundKeeper WAV don’t want to play. Pity DMP doesn’t play AIFF but there it is. So my experiment to compare different resolution of the same master didn’t eventuate. SK is sending me CDs of their different albums instead.

Also I found that the albums I purchased from HDTracks in WAV play without any fade between tracks. They just jump from one to the next, I 1st thought the download must had issues but now I realise this is the way the DMP reads the data. Is there a way to enable the DMP to soften the changeover between tracks without editing the WAV files?


Frank,

Have you tried AIFF burned to disc yet? I know the manual doesn’t list it, but being based on the Oppo engine (on which AIFF is a functional format), perhaps there is a chance the DMP will play it.


#34

@JM - no I haven’t. I couldn’t be bothered to purchase another format which might not play. I’ll wait for someone else to try. There is likely something in the way SK are formatting their discs as other WAV by other recording companies play okay on the DMP but not SK WAV. I might find the same with their AIFF.


#35

Do their wav files have tags embedded? If so, they may be interfering with the player. Perhaps you could try stripping the metadata off of some tracks, there should be tools that could take care of that. Maybe mp3tag or dBPoweramp? Thinking about this has gotten me curious as to what is happening.

J.P.


#36

@wingsounds13. Please feel free to try and let us know.


#37

@wingsounds13 and @lobro89

Have either of you tried playing the Soundkeeper files via the DMP?

Wingsounds13 - I think you have tried via Foobar / computer. The files work on a laptop too.


#38
wingsounds13 said

Do their wav files have tags embedded? If so, they may be interfering with the player. Perhaps you could try stripping the metadata off of some tracks, there should be tools that could take care of that. Maybe mp3tag or dBPoweramp? Thinking about this has gotten me curious as to what is happening.

J.P.


Hi J.P (btw if I use the @yourusertag option to alert you and select your name it reverts to @ryonlunch32 ?)

SK have confirmed that their WAV files do not have any metadata / tags etc.

From Barry Diament

If any PS user wants to try our .wav files in their player, they can download samples from our Format Comparison page at http://www.soundkeeperrecordings.com/format.htm

I’d really like someone else to try the download and try playing through the DMP to see if the mystery can be solved

Regards

Frank


#39

I don’t know if this experiment is good enough for you but I downloaded the Sound Keeper files and put them on a thumb drive and they played fine. But I (almost unconsciously) deleted the hidden __MACOSX directory and files. Might you be keeping them?

I also burned them as a data CD and they play fine. [edit: off of the CD there appears to be a small playback glitch just before the end of each track. Also 24/192k skips a lot]

A data DVD seems to play mostly fine. There’s a brief glitch just before the ends of each track. 24/192 plays fine.


#40

Hi Ted,

When I download the zip file there are two folders, one called _Macosx and the other contains a set of music Wav files, a cover file, etc. When you say “hidden” - is there also another file within that folder ?