Ravenna network audio standard


#1

Is PS Audio aware of the Ravenna network audio standard? Might it be incorporated into the Bridge. I need to read further, but it looks like a possible replacement for WaveStream.

http://www.ravenna-network.com

If this is not viable then at least I tried. I just came across it and it looks interesting.

J.P.


#2

An interesting talk on ip audio and AES47 standard

https://youtu.be/2Ir0f3VY2Sg


#3

Okay, that was interesting. Über nerdy, but interesting. cool

J.P.


#4

By the way, I added this thread because I saw that some competition is using it: Merging Technologies is now using Ravenna INSTEAD of USB for their latest digital products.

j.P.


#5

Do not let audiophiles know this network protocol has been in use in pro applications for a good while now, making it inherently less good sounding then it would be if it was audiophile exclusive. Very sad.


#6

Worse yet, licensing is free. It can’t be any good if it is not expensive!

J.P.


#7

There has been some discussions about the NADAC over at the CA forum for a while now. Not everyone is convinced, though. I think I also have mentioned it before in this forum. I find the Ravenna protocol both interesting and promising.


#8

I learned of it through Genelec.


#9

Still no comment of any type from PS Audio. @Paul? @Alex? Any thoughts on this or any similar Audio over IP standard being incorporated into the Bridge II?

J.P.


#10

It’s an interesting direction but one that we looked at and abandoned for a number of reasons. There’s not enough support for formats and sample rates, at least not when we looked at it. I don’t remember exactly, but Gordon had been suggesting it to us for some time. Engineering went through it some detail and we decided against it - didn’t want to get trapped.

I wish I remembered more details of why, but it was limiting.

It also requires a computer in the mix something we’re convinced fewer and fewer people are interested in - preferring instead for dedicated hardware. For example, there is a device I have been playing with that send USB over IP at any distance on CAT5 or WIFI - and it is flawless. Sounds better than just USB directly into the DAC. Same sort of thing as Ravenna really - but I abandoned work on turning it into a product because the only value it has, aside from sound quality, is the ability to remotely connect a PC to a DAC over CAT5. That’s interesting but not what people are looking for.

Our direction in product development is to continue working on the dedicated server/hardware box approach.


#11

Thanks Paul. It is always good to hear a clear response, especially from the top.

I guess at I am in a small minority, actually liking a computer solution. I am open to the dedicated server concept too. In that veign, I contributed to an indiegogo campaign for an LH Labs Source - server with internal storage. After a long wait, I hope to see it some time in the next six months.

J.P.


#12

As with all things, the vast majority rate convenience over quality. Think microwave popcorn.

A subset of this is the proliferation of USB devices to fix a USB datastream, when there are all sorts of high quality AES/EBU and S/PDIF cards. But USB comes installed on all computers and is easier.

Now that dedicated servers equal the sound of even the most highly tweaked computer, servers will eventually dominate - with a few dedicated computer tweakers happily enjoying their setups.