All I have to say about the whole subwoofer subject is this… For those who have “tried” a sub or subs in their 2-ch system and didn’t like the results, they didn’t have them set up properly, period. And I’ll say again… ALL loudspeakers, no matter their size or cost or bass extension, will benefit …

I do not understand, what do you think Paul did wrong?

It’s not Paul who I am suggesting is incorrect.

Then you need to be explicit, not passive aggressive. Who is wrong and in what way? I find there are many ways to accomplish the same things in audio. What is “right” is what works for a given system and meets the listener’s needs/preferences.

[image] System Photos! They dig so deep that they don’t need the subwoofers. Every speaker system can and will benefit from subwoofers.

[image] Chops: Every speaker system can and will benefit from subwoofers. I really depends on the type of bass you want. I have a subwoofer for my main system that I have no need to use as the speakers were chosen for the overall presentation. Other speaker options had significantly more bass…

It’s not really a matter of if the speakers faithfully reproduce bass or not. It’s more of a matter of being able to have subs placed in the best locations for optimal bass response in the room, which is most like NOT the same location that the speakers are placed. But if it works for you, then goo…

Whether it’s MOST or SOME, it’s not all. Don’t get me wrong about subs, in my office which is only 3m x 4m I planned to use a sub and got nice main speakers that don’t go much below 80Hz. p.s. REL have a very useful sub-choosing feature on their website. Apparently I’m meant to use an S/812.

[image] stevensegal: Whether it’s MOST or SOME, it’s not all. It pretty much is actually, but okay.

This exchange reminds me of John Darko’s most recent podcast (#22), and it’s not about subwoofers [image] ‎Darko.Audio podcast on Apple Podcasts ‎Technology · 2020

Can you summarise it one sentence, presumably it’s a free world and subwoofers aren’t mandatory. I’m a late convert to subwoofers. Originally they weren’t intended for 2-channel stereo at all.

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Every speaker system can and will benefit from subwoofers.

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